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Was driving through Hoylake yesterday and the queues were terrible. The people trying to get petrol were holding everyone else up. There is enough petrol to go around so why do people panic buy when there is a whiff that there may be a problem.
The supermarkets will be next. Remember the bog roll debacle, even though there was enough to go around.

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I blame the media for this, human nature being what it is the first rumour of petrol shortage would set off panic buying! I know theres freedom of speech and all that but I really think that news like this should be banned from being aired either by newspapers or tv news.
I know theres problems with HGV drivers etc but it should be sorted behind the scenes and not scaremongering which leads to panic buying!

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Yes, media have a lot to answer for. They create the situation and thenreport on a bad situation.
Yesterday the queues from all direction along Pensby Road for both garages , were ridiculous. BP and Sainsbury's. I went past again about 5pm, and there was a delivery at Sainsbury's. This morning at 11 am. The same garage has no petrol left.
It's time the media were taken into harness. PM and others state there is no lack of petroleum, but the media love to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
As Mikeeb says, 18 months ago it was toilet rolls.. Even now, I fail to see why toilet rolls were so important to all the panic buyers.
I didn;t and haven't panic buyed , and certainly don't intend to now.
If we don;t have a turkey, for Christmas, then that's a thumbs up for the turkeys. 18million bred in UK and slaughtered for our Xmas dinner table. What purpose does that serve ?

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I dropped a friend off at APH about 3 pm and thought I would call into Sainsbury's to have a look around on the way home, traffic queuing from the roundabout.

I know it's tradition but never been keen on turkey so won't miss it, it used to be a bit of a family thing going to Birkenhead market for the Christmas turkey, pork and ham, my brother liked to toss a coin over the price with the butcher, still remember those days fondly the atmosphere was so different then.

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If anyone want to fill up this evening then the BP at Bromborough has all pumps working and hardly any queue (I went straight to pump).

Shell by Cammel Lairds is currently out of fuel.

ASDA, Woodchurch (Arrowe) was out of fuel either today or yesterday - or maybe the queues had become unmanageable so they closed the pumps.

I've got a trip to do on Monday and I've just started doing a personal job by Stanlow which is going to take a few days, good timing!


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All this panic buying just exacerbates the situation of not enough HGV drivers.
Now we do need more HGV drivers because more petrol stations are out of fuel.

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Add to that the shortage of goods, which raises prices, which will benefit the companies, and contribute to inflation. More people on food banks, and the higher infaltion rate won't benefit pensioners , they'll still probably get their usual statutory rise of approx. £10 per month and no way of increasing their income...... unless they go begging or selling their wares.

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I don't think anyone would buy my wares granny. smile

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No panic buying there, then !! wink


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Don't trust the Media haven't for years was visiting my Dad on Sunday/Monday don't live on the Wirral now had to wait until Whitchurch to get enough fuel to get home.

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Just been to Liscard, Asda and there were only a few cars in there and no queues, and also drove past the petrol station on King St and only 2 cars in there.
Looks like most have filled up to the brim now and can't get anymore in their tanks.

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Originally Posted by mikeeb
Looks like most have filled up to the brim now and can't get anymore in their tanks.



Yeah, I was wondering why the Government said the disruption could over a month due to panic buying. Once everyone has brimmed then consumption will go back to its normal level, I'm sure that would happen in less than a month.


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About 4pm yesterday...

Shell, Cammel Laird had fuel and no queue
Texaco, Bromborough/Eastham had fuel and no queue

BP, Bromborough appeared to have no fuel


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It seems we have weathered the storm here, and the South East region is feeling it the worst.
https://news.sky.com/story/fuel-cri...-said-it-was-back-under-control-12422907

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Another media crisis averted !

Oh, hang on....... next is to be 'pigs in blankets' , turkey, and anything with 'Christmas' attached to it .

I'll give them a week before the build up of more crap.

And why have I just got Chinese adverts all over my Wikiwirral page ? More gremlins..

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Looks like the fuse has been lit for more panic buying, bum paper again omg and Walkers crisps :o, what will we do?

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I noticed a lack of pasta in Sainsburys today; don't know if that's due to transport issues or panic buying! I can certainly live without Walkers crisps. We'll see what happens about loo roll... please, not again!

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Don't care anymore, we can eat what we find, but I so wish the media would stop perpetuating unnecessary and fictitious 'bad' news.
What's more, why do people listen to them any longer ?


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In the words of Fraser off dads army “We’re doomed , doomed we are!!

I too wish they wouldn’t broadcast about shortages , we know there’s problems but why set off panic buying. Wish they would get rid of all the red tape and paperwork needed to become HGV drivers , apparently there is long list of people waiting to take the test. Concentrate on them . This is where the lack of apprenticeships like the old days is now coming back to bite us. We need to start them properly and get the young ones interested in all trades really including driving jobs.
Heard about an area in Liverpool where they grow vegetables and then they are harvested and local people can help themselves to whatever , thought that was a great idea and should be expanded to everywhere.

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A firm in Lincolnshire is offering £30 per hour for picking broccoli. Ha ha, this will set a precedent for the other miserable comanies that only want to pay £7 an hour.

I hope it's true and not another media joke although it has been reported in various news papers

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/food-firm-offering-workers-30-21677777


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Originally Posted by granny

A firm in Lincolnshire is offering £30 per hour for picking broccoli. Ha ha, this will set a precedent for the other miserable comanies that only want to pay £7 an hour.

I hope it's true and not another media joke although it has been reported in various news papers


Of course it the misleading media ....

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Please note the harvesting adverts have been misconstrued by the media – they are paid at a piecework rate with the POTENTIAL to earn up to £30 per hour; they are NOT being paid at a standard rate of £30 per hour


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Always a hidden message, and only to be expected but even a 'possible' £30 an hour on piecework must be quite a big improvement for basic hourly rate.


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Is piece work not just another name for enforced labour? You only get paid more if you work crazily quickly and then no work at all.

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Not necessarily, because it gives you the chance to earn a lot more than a day rate.
I done the foundations on the 2 bridge replacements on Tower Road as price work and it paid well, but sadly, Dawnus went bust and I never got my final invoice of 5 grand, so it has its pros and cons.

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Originally Posted by Salmon
Is piece work not just another name for enforced labour? You only get paid more if you work crazily quickly and then no work at all.


Quite the opposite, you aren't forced to do anything, its piece work.

All the bits and pieces I've done in the last fifteen years or so have been piece work/zero hours, I wouldn't have it any other way, I don't want to be tied down to a contract which forces me to work.

I agree employees should have a choice and be offered regular work if they want it but there are also a lot of people that want the flexibility and freedom of being out of contract that shouldn't be ignored.


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Indeed, I never understood why the government allows such videos to be created and broadcast on television. People become more restless and cannot think rationally. Probably worth talking to people about how they can help themselves - if relatives have a garden, they can help grow vegetables; if there is no money for fuel, then you can get a forgotten bike and explore the surroundings. It is clear that the deficit will not last long, but unnecessary anxiety among the population will persist for a long time to come.

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