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Ban on sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans.
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18th Nov 2020 10:50am
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Boris Johnson to ban sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2030. https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/18879649.boris-johnson-ban-sales-petrol-diesel-cars-vans-2030/Interestingly, this will cause a loss of up to £40 billion of tax revenue from fuel duty and vehicle excise duty. To cover this shortfall they are discussing a road pricing system but nothing has been decided yet. "In October 2019, the cross-party House of Commons Transport Select Committee pledged that it would start “a national debate” over the introduction of potential pay-per-mile road pricing schemes. A Labour government first considered road pricing 13 years ago, but plans were dropped over fears of a public backlash." https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ders-road-pricing-cover-ev-tax-shortfallOne thing for sure, the price and taxing of petrol and diesel will skyrocket for the remaining few that still have a roadworthy vehicle.
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Re: Ban on sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans.
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20th Nov 2020 12:36pm
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Like with many innovations, the owners are the long term test guinea pigs.
It was the same when diesels were being pushed as the best thing to own because they were no longer smoky and noisy, and the DPF filter would capture any harmful emissions, along with the incentive of £20 (now £35) or even zero road tax.
But a few years of local driving and the EGR valves, DPF filters and engines are completely sooted up - all conveniently out of warranty and responsibility of the manufacturers and dealers.
Back to electric cars - if you think pavement parking is a problem now, then wait until electric cables are strung out of people's houses onto the street. There's an EV owner in Lytham who thinks he owns the pavement and blocks it with his car so he can charge his car. Hope he wasn't late for work the time I unplugged it!
Last edited by Gibbo; 20th Nov 2020 12:39pm.
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Re: Ban on sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans.
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20th Nov 2020 11:25pm
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Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are the way to go, but joined-up thinking is required to see that, and there is no evidence of that from this government whatsoever.
The downside will be the price of petrol eventually going through the roof. Whilst I was a great fan of Hydrogen at one time, things have moved on, clean carbon-neutral syn-fuels are well on their way and may save the internal combustion engine.
We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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Re: Ban on sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans.
[Re: mikeeb]
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20th Nov 2020 11:32pm
20th Nov 2020 11:32pm
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Veh tax is allegedly to keep the roads in good repair, - sorry for pause, was laughing so hard.
That hasn't been the case since 1937 when 'Road Tax' was abolished. It is now simply a tax on your car, and nothing whatever to do with roads. Get used to it.
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