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Re: Election 2019 [Re: granny] #1073126
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Wirral West is Labour hold, again Conservatives lost some votes.


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Wallasey is Labour hold.

All four Wirral seats have remained Labour, excellent.


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hi Good morning. Everybody happy ? yipee


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Queenie in a safe seat too ! grin


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This is not a time for gloating. Its the bloody nose I've said for so long that Labour would get, only I didn't think it would get it from the Labour heartlands of the North.

When places like Rother and Don Valley and so many other strong Labour seats are voting Tory, you know that Labour is no longer speaking to the people there.

But Labour have done themselves no favours by alienating the centre-left - the people that Blair worked so hard to take from the Tories. Corbyn supporters still using phrases like "Blairites" and "Tory Lite" have done themselves no favours and pushed us elsewhere. The rise in Momentum and their angry supporters is just the icing on the cake.

Time to move on, fresh leader, fresh perspectives. Brexit should now be a done deal and forgotten about. No more talk about extensions and second referendums which are splitting the party. Remainers are just going to have to grin and bear it. I accepted it some time ago, Lets get a moderate Labour leader to reunite the party and prepare for a 2024 victory.

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It is 90% down to the media.

Its people believing that Corbyn is anti-Semitic which is a lie on the scale of saying the Pope is a bigamist.

Its people believing that Labour put the country in debt when it has ALWAYS been the Conservatives that borrowed more money and mismanaged the economy.

Basically its people not checking the facts.

To quote Jim Morrison "Whoever controls the media, controls the mind".

How can people vote for a party that has been in power for nine years and damaged everything they have touched? Only happens through lies!


Blair was a Tory, it is pointless being the Labour party when you take a right-wing stance, its not about winning, its about doing the right thing.


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Originally Posted by granny


hi Good morning. Everybody happy ? yipee


I hope you will still be dancing in a year or two granny no

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Originally Posted by Gibbo
But Labour have done themselves no favours by alienating the centre-left


The voting evidence would suggest otherwise, all the centrists that left the Labour and Tory parties lost their seats.


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I was glad about the result, not that I really think Boris is great but compared to Corbyn for me he was the better choice... I hope now that Brexit can start moving again and although it will take awhile just have to be optimistic and hope it will work in our favour. Also think there will be some good advisors behind scenes to steer Boris about other matters which need to be sorted!
Don't think it was all down to media DD ,Corbyn and his outlandish claims were just not believable and he as a leader obviously did not sit well with the majority..

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Originally Posted by casper
Originally Posted by granny


hi Good morning. Everybody happy ? yipee


I hope you will still be dancing in a year or two granny no



Yep, I will. Optimism is a key to success. On the other hand pessimism is the answer to doom and gloom.

Basically, Labour and Lib Dems shot themselves in the foot. Had they not denied the democratic referendum and continually , week after week, in PM's questions argued for a second referendum, blocked, and voted against the motions, there would have been no need for a General Election at this point in time.
I think the media have had an input, mainly because in the studio audience questions to the different parties, the questions were the same each time, and we never moved from the NHS, Brexit, Police and Education.
We'd heard all of that over and over again for months, and Corbyn and Co . could not drop their constant nag and political character assassination , which is like kids in a playground.
Had Crobyn not been leader, they could have done a lot better.
But, I believe we will come out far better than anticipated..... and when we consider that the whole of Europe has been on austerity and Germany and France have more food banks than UK and feed more people than the UK. (countries with equivalent populations ) and a programme that is relatively new to UK, but been in operation for many more years in Europe and around the world.

When looking at properties in Liverpool for rent, nearly all the terraced houses are for rent to students . Landlords , many from London owning streets of houses, and renting them out to students for double the rent ,it's a disgrace when so many families need homes. A trend that began during the 2000's and continued to grow.
Let the Universities build more student accommodation and allow the local people to have the family homes that were originally meant for them.

There are so many issues that could have been discussed in the TV debates..... but no , they were all directed by pre- designed questions on the same old intended vote catching.

Anyway, I have to say, that I will gloat, because they tried to defy the referendum result... and it backfired !

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and, before anyone argues about the properties in Liverpool being bought up by Londoners, the minute that Liverpool won the Capitol of Culture, the phones were ringing like mad. I took the calls and they were all property hunters from London.
Now they get between £750 and £1000 per month from student rentals. Houses that would normally approx. get £500 for a family occupation.

Plus the increase in population and the strain of the NHS, but Corbyn intended to continue with free movement. Population UK in 2000 , 59 million. Population 2019 , 67.5 million.

Why can't we buy lamb at a reasonable cost ? Because Welsh lamb is the best in the world, and the farmers sell it to European counties because they are offered exceptionally high prices. The farmers won't lose profit by selling it to us.
Then they ship the live meat from European countries all over the world, Africa, Asia, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. The last shipload leaving Romania 2 weeks ago sank . On it's way to Saudi Arabia , the ship sank and over 1400 sheep died. They managed to rescue 230 !

The same applies to beef cattle. All over the world, once it's left UK. A piece of topside here for a family costs how much ? About £15.00 !


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And just on the optimistic note Granny, just heard that the pound and shares have surged due to the uncertainty of Brexit bing sorted.

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Originally Posted by cools
Corbyn and his outlandish claims were just not believable and he as a leader obviously did not sit well with the majority..


Name two outlandish claims? Unlike the Conservatives the Labour manifesto was fully costed.

Have you any idea how much money the Tories have thrown it in the direction of the rich, they are having a go at Corbyn on a £83bn 5 year plan, the Tories borrowed an extra £80bn each year for 9 years on average Check it! Where did that money go???


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Originally Posted by cools
And just on the optimistic note Granny, just heard that the pound and shares have surged due to the uncertainty of Brexit bing sorted.


Rubbish, Casper, it's because they know which direction things are now going in. The pound soared against the dollar. Anyway, don't know why you are worried, i thought you'd be quids in. !! grin


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When the Shadow Home Secretary goes out in odd shoes, not only odd but two left feet, then things are getting a bit concerning to say the least. Do they really know what they were promoting ? crazy


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