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Re: TV licences [Re: svenlock68] #1070077
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Aiming high sven, Switzerland indeed, you would probably require £70/80k a year to live on plus money at the back of you, an extremely hard country to gain access to live even as an EU citizen, so better get your skates on (or skis) before we leave.



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If Switzerland is utopia, I wonder why the suicide rate is so much higher than the UK?


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
If Switzerland is utopia, I wonder why the suicide rate is so much higher than the UK?


Its the biggest killer of men under 40 in the uk but many people just dont man up & get on with life. Mental health and all that is the new progressive liberal mantra these days. Never talked about during the wars years ago cause men had balls and didnt run away from things & winge like babies. Funny enough swiss have compulsary national service . Uk has always needed that. But it was stopped. What a pity.
Men in the uk dont get off their ass and work for things theyre busy doin their hair & playing computer games while eating macs. Turning up for interviews in trackys so they get their dole cheque.
Ive seen it all.
What you do is make yourself an LLC and use residency lump sum taxation law. Its used here for foreigners.
London is a great place from someone from say russia to not pay tax....this is the irony.
Example ...a US business man earns millions in usa but pays pays 50 / 60 % tax on it.
He applies for a malta passport and pays lawyers so all he will pay is the yearly cost of his outgoins & rent and nothing else. You cant be taxed in 2 countries. So he saves alot. Dual nationality law.
Italy portugal malta swiss etc all have lump sum yearly residency payment law. You only pay once . The OECD and common reporting standard has cut down on black money / money laundering over the years but you can get round that. This is why F1 drivers live in swiss.

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
[quote=diggingdeeper]Never talked about during the wars years ago cause men had balls and didnt run away from things & winge like babies.


UK suicide rates remained pretty constant through WW2, there was a reduction in WW1 but many suicides weren't recorded as such in the battlefields, the first (gradual) peak was 1905 then it peaked again during the great depression in the 1934, again in the 1960's then again in recent years.

Overall it has decreased this century compared to the last, both 1905 and 1934 had 30.3 suicides per 100,000 people, I believe we are around half that figure now.


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[quote=diggingdeeper]Never talked about during the wars years ago cause men had balls and didnt run away from things & winge like babies.


UK suicide rates remained pretty constant through WW2, there was a reduction in WW1 but many suicides weren't recorded as such in the battlefields, the first (gradual) peak was 1905 then it peaked again during the great depression in the 1934, again in the 1960's then again in recent years.

Overall it has decreased this century compared to the last, both 1905 and 1934 had 30.3 suicides per 100,000 people, I believe we are around half that figure now.





Try to get the wimps to sign up today. Doin national service would be against their " human rights " . I doubt it. As with most things years ago we werent aware or should i say force fed images of war . Were now TOO aware. A false sense of national pride makes people go to say eg iraq in 2003 , when really it was just an illegal invasion to overthrow a west supplied " dictator " for oil profits & bush blair war criminals vanity.
We can just evaporate " enemies " by drone now.
Its nothing to be proud of , suicides , then or now. Thats why as a country we drink / take drugs so much..to fuzz out our meaningless lives.
Alot of army lads are from care & the army IS their family. Ive worked with them.
I doubt , going back , that the reason swiss kill themselves is the same .. theyre probably bored or fed up.

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
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[quote=diggingdeeper]Never talked about during the wars years ago cause men had balls and didnt run away from things & winge like babies.


UK suicide rates remained pretty constant through WW2, there was a reduction in WW1 but many suicides weren't recorded as such in the battlefields, the first (gradual) peak was 1905 then it peaked again during the great depression in the 1934, again in the 1960's then again in recent years.

Overall it has decreased this century compared to the last, both 1905 and 1934 had 30.3 suicides per 100,000 people, I believe we are around half that figure now.





Try to get the wimps to sign up today. Doin national service would be against their " human rights " . I doubt it. As with most things years ago we werent aware or should i say force fed images of war . Were now TOO aware. A false sense of national pride makes people go to say eg iraq in 2003 , when really it was just an illegal invasion to overthrow a west supplied " dictator " for oil profits & bush blair war criminals vanity.
We can just evaporate " enemies " by drone now.
Its nothing to be proud of , suicides , then or now. Thats why as a country we drink / take drugs so much..to fuzz out our meaningless lives.
Alot of army lads are from care & the army IS their family. Ive worked with them.
I doubt , going back , that the reason swiss kill themselves is the same .. theyre probably bored or fed up.


You have a distorted view of how things relate sven, on one hand you say we went to war over national pride, then you say it was about oil and money, if you are in the forces you go where you are sent,the forces take away a lot of peoples independence and they become reliant on the way of life with a lot of day to day responsibility of living taken up by the MOD,that is why when they leave they have difficulty in adjusting to civilian life.

Men didn't sign up for National service , they were sent enlistment papers along with a railway warrant to report, so no choice unless you had a reserved occupation eg; NCB or MN.

My own view on suicides, is that a lot are caused by being bombarded with media propaganda about how we should look what we should have, who we should be, and you are right in some aspects the dross shown on television people seeking instant fame and being egged on by those that believe they are fit to judge another human being, best to just enjoy what life we have, the sun shining( sometimes)the birds singing and fresh air and dealing with things one step at a time, you can do that in Great Britain sven, stop looking at the negatives.

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This has gone very off topic from the original subject.

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Originally Posted by Gibbo
This has gone very off topic from the original subject.


Yes it has Gibbo , but no harm done, it happens. offtopic

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Back to the BBC,, and the political debate last night !

Did anyone watch it ? My opinions were that Mailtis was typically usual in her interrupting (mostly Boris) from finishing what they had to say. A programme that was as weak as dishwater and the candidates who were painfully out of ideas and using the same old rhetoric.

Then we see this, this morning. No doubt Boris and others would have know who these people were, but BBC just seem to plead ignorance !

https://order-order.com/


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Originally Posted by granny


Back to the BBC,, and the political debate last night !

Did anyone watch it ? My opinions were that Mailtis was typically usual in her interrupting (mostly Boris) from finishing what they had to say. A programme that was as weak as dishwater and the candidates who were painfully out of ideas and using the same old rhetoric.

Then we see this, this morning. No doubt Boris and others would have know who these people were, but BBC just seem to plead ignorance !

https://order-order.com/


Have to agree constant interruptions spoiled the debate, then again they did not guarantee anything. Does it really matter the only people, who will decide is the small number of conservatives members

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Originally Posted by Gibbo
This has gone very off topic from the original subject.


Yes it has Gibbo , but no harm done, it happens. offtopic


Its because you look at my posts , not fully , then give the two pennyworth without fully understand my meaning / intent.
What i actually said was alot of the young DO go to war esp in iraq afghan etc thro a distorted view of " national pride / loving the uk " ( id never ) when 15 years later we all know the TRUTH now ...it was a war crime.
Slaughter of the innocent for oil domination.
This " amazing " country treats its vets like dirt ( we all know that ) end up homeless druggys or kiilin themselves PTSD. My answer is why do that for scummy queen & country who dont give a toss about the individual. Never understood that. We all deep down know it. !!!
Its like goin to a bank or parasite loan company thinking they " care " no way theyll just feed on you.
Im not negative i know how things go. How it is.

I never said you can get out of NS i said ( a good thing ) we need it now aside from wartime ( as the swiss do ) as our youth are lazy gormless useless head down in phones loud obnoxious stoned snowflake plonkers who cant make a bed.
Parents fault spoiling the idiots. Or morbidly obese tv mongos.
Futures buggered for youths. Funny.
Were creators of our own problems britain. Our own downfall.
I think ill write a book called " weapons of mass consumption " or " head down " mind u pete hitchens wrote " the abolition of britain " years ago & was spot on.

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Funny thing is that ironically lots of oaps will actually cost scummy torys / BBC MORE now than save cause its highlighted to oaps into getting & looking into more benefits theyre allowed to get....that cost will end up greater than the supposed " saving " by taking the licence away.
Advisors telling them to look into everything to claim back. BBC " saving " laugh = 750mil now becomes additional benefits owed once looked into = 1.5 billion..You couldnt make it up ....how the corrupt stupid bbc and gov ' are

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A false sense of national pride makes people go to say eg iraq in 2003 , when really it was just an illegal invasion to overthrow a west supplied " dictator " for oil profits & bush blair war criminals vanity.

I fully understand what you have written, the King commands and we obey, over the hills and faraway, so the song goes, only it was the government, nothing to do with national pride, governments make wars, the young pay the bill.

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Originally Posted by casper
My own view on suicides, is that a lot are caused by being bombarded with media propaganda about how we should look what we should have, who we should be, and you are right in some aspects the dross shown on television people seeking instant fame and being egged on by those that believe they are fit to judge another human being, best to just enjoy what life we have, the sun shining( sometimes)the birds singing and fresh air and dealing with things one step at a time


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