WikiWirral Online with you since 2003, fantastic.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,014,025
Topics74,839
Members12,885
Forums66
Posts in last 24hrs24
Most Online7,831
Apr 8th, 2013
Who's Online Now
50 registered members (alan128, 12 invisible), 1,018 guests, and366 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
89 ISIS
New General Forums
Gaza strip
by venice. 17th Feb 2019 1:30am
ISIS
by casper. 14th Feb 2019 9:32am
Join Us Tonight .. FREE ENTRY ..
by WargamerNik. 13th Feb 2019 12:29pm
Donald Trump
by Salmon. 12th Feb 2019 10:11am
New Wirral History
Bidston Hall
by RUDEBOX. 12th Jan 2014 8:46pm
Morpeth Buildings Brook St
by Ducko. 12th Jan 2009 11:39am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
WW1 Monument, Birkenhead
No more bridge, never be the same
Topic Replies
RAF Tornado Farewell Flypast Tour
by venice. 17th Feb 2019 1:08am
What song are you listening to?
by eggandchips. 16th Feb 2019 11:11pm
Creative Gigaworks T40 Series II Speakers
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:18am
HP Envy 13.3 Laptop AD059NA
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:16am
PC Peripherals
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:12am
Shed/Summerhouse Guttering Kit
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:10am
School Kids Climate Change Protests
by granny. 16th Feb 2019 9:44am
Very ill informed distracted youth " protesting "
by dva99999. 16th Feb 2019 5:09am
European Parliament on now.
by granny. 15th Feb 2019 8:49pm
February
M T W T F S S
1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28
Recent Posts : What's On ?
RAF Tornado Farewell Flypast Tour
by venice. 17th Feb 2019 1:08am
Join Us Tonight .. FREE ENTRY ..
by WargamerNik. 13th Feb 2019 12:30pm
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Inside Europe #1065151
5th Feb 2019 10:54am
5th Feb 2019 10:54am
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 16,130
Wirral
granny Offline OP
Wiki Master
granny  Offline OP
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 16,130
Wirral

Inside Europe

Has anyone watched this programme. Monday at 9pm BBC2.? Part 2 was on last night with another to follow next Monday.

Very interesting what goes on behind the scenes but they're a powerful bunch of head workers . No wonder Mrs. May is having a tough time of it.

Alarm bells all the way , particularly in the Greek crisis when German demands asset stripping Greece's national treasures to the tune of E50 billion ! Modelled on West Germany's privatisation of East Germany's property.
It all paints a rather ugly picture of what Europe will eventually become ( through my own interpretation)


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Google Ads
Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065152
5th Feb 2019 11:05am
5th Feb 2019 11:05am
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
It’s just part of the continual process of Germany taking over Europe.

The only way to defeat the German advance is for every EU country to default on their German loan repayments.

There is open talk now of the EU controlling the few remaining sovereignty remains of the individual countries like all taxation and military.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065153
5th Feb 2019 1:07pm
5th Feb 2019 1:07pm
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,627
wirral
E
Excoriator Online content
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Online Content
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,627
wirral
It evidently hasn't penetrated to whatever part of Wirral you people hail from but WW2 is now officially over. Indeed it has been over now for over 70 years.

I appreciate how too many films like "The Dam Busters" or "Where Eagles Dare" attempt to persuade you we are still at war but really it is fiction not fact. As is your evident delusion that the EU is simply the third Reich cunningly renamed by crypto-nazis like M. Barnier and Junker.

I really cannot understand why you cannot distinguish between a nation and a Union of Nations. The EU consists of 28 nations, all as keen as you are to retain their unique national identities and 'Sovereignty'. The EU has NO law-making powers in any of them. ALL laws in the UK are the result of the UK government passing them, by agreement not by force. As are all laws in France Germany, Italy Spain and all other nations in Europe.

Nor is the EU run by unelected bureaucrats any more than the UK is. It has a parliament and you can vote for or against MEPs and uses them to pursue issues just as you can with UK MPs. It has its bureaucrats of course, just as we do. But far, far fewer. I believe the EU has about 35,000 to administer 28 nations. For comparison, the NHS alone has an estimated 187,000 bureaucrats! You can look up for yourselves how many civil servants. local government officers and so on we have in the UK

So the claims that we are 'run' by unelected bureaucrats who are all nazis or crypto nazis or dedicated to the downfall of the UK are total monumental bollocks.

It is uncritical belief in this sort of poisonous nonsense that has led the UK into the mess we now find ourselves in, with commerce and industry 'deinvesting' in the UK or at least planning to do so when we leave the EU.

It will be interesting to see who gets the blame when your pensions are insufficient to feed you let alone keep you warm, and your children find themselves struggling to survive with no work, and your grandchildren going substantially uneducated due to lack of cash. It will be anyone but the real culprits. The EU will be blamed. The Labour party, the Conservative party, the Unions, Capitalism, Russia, the USA. etc etc. Anyone but those really responsible:

The idiots who voted leave. YOU!

Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065159
5th Feb 2019 2:23pm
5th Feb 2019 2:23pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 16,130
Wirral
granny Offline OP
Wiki Master
granny  Offline OP
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 16,130
Wirral


You might consider WWII to be over, but others certainly don't , particularly the Jews. They, who did not fit into Germany's ideals of a perfect society !

Then Germany marched into various other countries with the same intentions of putting all those with disabilities, Jews, gypsies, Russians, anyone who didn't match up to expectations of an Arian race, into a 'clearing house'.

Things haven't changed under the duvets of naked control.


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065160
5th Feb 2019 3:13pm
5th Feb 2019 3:13pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
@Ex it doesn't matter how much denial your are in, it is happening. It is also totally nothing to do with how many insults you hurl at me.

It is not long ago that you stated there would never be an EU army, not only was there already an EU army but ever since then there have been open talks about increasing the EU controlled military.

If an EU country refuses to ratify an EU directive they get taken to the European Court of Justice and fined. The directives are forced on EU countries by this means, there is no question of the country choosing whether to implement it or not. This process is controlled by the unelected European Commission.

MEP's do not have the same powers as UK MPs, it is the European Commission that is "responsible for proposing legislation, implementing decisions, upholding the EU treaties and managing the day-to-day business of the EU"

Can you tell me when the following EU leaders were elected by the EU public into an EU office/position?

Jean-Claude Juncker (President of the European Commission)
Frans-Timmermans (First Vice-President of the European Commission)
Federica Maria Mogherini (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Jyrki Tapani Katainen (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Valdis Dombrovskis (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Andrus Ansip (Vice-President of the European Commission)
Maroš Šefčovič (Vice-President of the European Commission)

I haven't checked thoroughly but I don't think any of them have been an MEP. Can you imagine a UK Prime Minister being appointed without being an elected MP?






Last edited by diggingdeeper; 5th Feb 2019 3:14pm.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065204
7th Feb 2019 12:08pm
7th Feb 2019 12:08pm
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,627
wirral
E
Excoriator Online content
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Online Content
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,627
wirral
Quote
...through my own interpretation ...


Quite!

I didn't vote for Olly Robbins either. Nor any of the 'advisers' hired by the government at our expense.

Do try to compare like with like DD

Re: Inside Europe [Re: granny] #1065205
7th Feb 2019 12:29pm
7th Feb 2019 12:29pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,335
Birkenhead
Olly Robbins is a civil servant, he does not and never has set Government policy. An adviser is just that, they have no power.

Five of the seven EU presidents are unelected:-

Jean-Claude Juncker, President of the European Commission.

Donald Tusk, President of the European Council .

Koen Lenaerts, President of the Court of Justice of the European Union.

Mario Draghi, President of the European Central Bank.

Klaus-Heiner Lehne, President of the European Court of Auditors.


In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
RAF Tornado Farewell Flypast Tour
by diggingdeeper. 16th Feb 2019 12:36pm
European Parliament on now.
by granny. 15th Feb 2019 3:26pm
School Kids Climate Change Protests
by fish5133. 15th Feb 2019 2:08pm
Join Us Tonight .. FREE ENTRY ..
by WargamerNik. 13th Feb 2019 12:30pm
Join Us Tonight .. FREE ENTRY ..
by WargamerNik. 13th Feb 2019 12:29pm
For Sale & Free
Creative Gigaworks T40 Series II Speakers
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:18am
HP Envy 13.3 Laptop AD059NA
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:16am
Shed/Summerhouse Guttering Kit
by Catsick. 16th Feb 2019 11:10am
Any old computer hardware
by TheComputerLab. 12th Feb 2019 9:13pm
For Sale: Mountfield ride on lawnmower 7hp. £50!
by anniebo28. 6th Feb 2019 4:26pm
Member Spotlight
Snodvan
Snodvan
Wallasey Village
Posts: 1,355
Joined: March 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
URBen, Kaylawritinglife, Nick_senior, tra1981, Legolady
12885 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
RAF Tornado Farewell Flypast Tour
by diggingdeeper. 16th Feb 2019 12:36pm
Join Us Tonight .. FREE ENTRY ..
by WargamerNik. 13th Feb 2019 12:30pm
Vue Cinema and Birkenhead Market For Demolition?
by fish5133. 12th Feb 2019 11:35pm
electrician
by lincle. 5th Feb 2019 7:32pm
Calor Gas Stoves
by muzzy2. 3rd Feb 2019 9:05am
News : New Topics
School Kids Climate Change Protests
by fish5133. 15th Feb 2019 2:08pm
Brief brown-out in New Ferry
by Excoriator. 11th Feb 2019 10:53pm
Very ill informed distracted youth " protesting "
by svenlock68. 11th Feb 2019 10:30am
Trees Down
by diggingdeeper. 7th Feb 2019 8:39am
Missed Bin Collections
by diggingdeeper. 5th Feb 2019 4:14am
New Enthusiast Forums
European Parliament on now.
by granny. 15th Feb 2019 3:26pm
RIP Gordon Banks
by diggingdeeper. 12th Feb 2019 1:48pm
NAILS IN DOG BISCUITS
by venice. 8th Feb 2019 10:24am
Super Bowl Chilli
by granny. 5th Feb 2019 2:13pm
Inside Europe
by granny. 5th Feb 2019 10:54am
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sun 7:25am
Sunset Sun 5:26pm
Local Time Sun 4:49am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1