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Interesting.. Corpus Juris means allowing the state to imprison for most any reason without trial.

EU have had it on their agenda since the 1990's. Totally against UK judicial system of ' Innocent until Proven Guilty.'

This is how the EU are gaining more and more control, thank goodness we are getting out.. asap.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199899/ldselect/ldeucom/62/6204.htm

THE CORPUS JURIS WOULD CHANGE LAWS AND PROCEDURES

111. Within its own particular field the Corpus Juris would involve major departures from the criminal laws and procedures of the United Kingdom. New offences would be created, some more extensive than existing provisions. In particular the notion of fraud would be enlarged from the existing concept, which is that of conscious dishonesty, to encompass negligent acts and recklessness. Witnesses were critical of this and other aspects of the offences set out in Part 1 of the Corpus Juris (Criminal Law). But the more fundamental and strongest objections related to Part II (Criminal Procedure). The approaches taken in the United Kingdom to the investigation and prosecution of crime are quite different in several respects from those in other Member States and the model proposed in the Corpus Juris. Under the latter, for example, the functions of investigation and prosecution of offences and execution of sentences would be combined in the hands of a European Public Prosecutor (EPP). The trial would be in a national court but before a specialist judge, with no jury. The Commission could be involved as a Apartie civile@ in the proceedings.

112. The procedure in the Corpus Juris seeks to marry the inquisitorial and adversarial/written and oral traditions of the Member States, though the result is probably closer to the Continental European than the Anglo-Saxon model. In our view, there would need to be significant added value to justify changes of such magnitude.

http://www.caef.org.uk/d44corpusjuris.html

http://www.silentmajority.co.uk/silentmajority/eurorealist/corpus_juris.html

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We signed up to this in the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009 when we threw the last threads of our sovereignty away without a referendum.


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I think when May manages to get something signed and agreed Nigel Farage will be back asking for another referendum to "really" leave the EU.

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As usual we see xenophobic ill-informed crap taking over from rational argument.

The EU has a thing called human rights to which people can appeal if they have been treated unfairly. This overrides any laws.Our piss-poor government has opposed such legislation of course!

But in this country, we don't have such things taking place. Well, not unless the person is a muslim and accused of terrorism, Then you find the evidence against him presented by a ghostly figure called 'Witness A' who cannot be identified for security reasons. Nor can his background as a serial liar and evidence fabricator (should he have one) be revealed for fear of revealing his identity. And we have free speech here. You can say what you like unless you happen to be a muslinm cleric who chooses to preach joining IS. Then he gets banged up indefinitely.

Please do NOT call him a political prisoner. We don't have those here. Best call him something else. Lets see... 'Detainee' perhaps?

Pots and black kettles inevitably spring to mind whenever Granny waxes patriotic.

Look! I said patriotic didn't I? Nobody said xenophobic did they?

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UK human rights legislation led the World before we joined the EU, since we joined the EU we appear to have gone backwards. We have already lost our right to a jury which was sacrosanct when we joined.


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