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Re: Another 250 jobs to go at Vauxhalls
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8th Jan 2018 5:46pm
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It's not leaving because the majority voted for brexit. It's leaving because brexit is a crappy deal for Vauxhall. They will have to pay to move product to Europe if we end up with no deal. Only a fool would not move production out to Europe under such an arrangement. It might not happen, but staying is a gamble and companies always seek to minimise risk.
I am very sorry indeed for the people who work at Vauxhall, but this is exactly the sort of thing that was predicted in 'project fear' and protecting their jobs was to me a lot more important than sovereignty or taking back control which was why I voted to remain. It will not be the end either. I am afraid that the factory is doomed unless we remain in the customs union.
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Re: Another 250 jobs to go at Vauxhalls
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8th Jan 2018 9:44pm
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Yes, GM sold to PSA which is what has kicked this off. PSA get illegal Government subsidies (from more than one country) which so far have not been penalised by the EU or WTC Money isn't everything otherwise all businesses would be in China, India, Pakistan, Korea etc. This is blatantly not true as PSA are moving work from Korea to Europe and more specifically Russelsheim (Germany). PSA said in November 2017 "We intend to achieve all our goals without plant closures and without forced redundancies" in their formal statement of the future of Vauxhall/Opel HERE
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Re: Another 250 jobs to go at Vauxhalls
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9th Jan 2018 6:22pm
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I'd say no. It is a matter of not having to pay import duty on cars going from the UK to the EU. I don't see legal actions between companies as being anything abnormal. They do it all the time. Nothing to do with tariff barriers.
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Re: Another 250 jobs to go at Vauxhalls
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Vauxhall is an assembly plant, 75% of the components are manufactured abroad and about 65% of that is EU. The assembly is the lean end of manufacturing the added value being labour intensive and logistically challenging. When a car carrier brings in a few thousand Corsa (made in Spain) rather than go back empty they load a few thousand Astra (made in England) Business is no fool. What will they do when they have to pay hundreds of pounds of duty on each car? Use a much smaller carrier for a start. More expensive cars = fewer sold.
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