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With regard to DD'd post, it seems there has to be every reason why we should all be paying for parking along the coast.

I have to ask though :

What contributes £400 million from Wirral's Tourism ? Anticipated to grow to £450 million by 2020. Pull the other one. Food and drink and weddings ? Who in their right mind is likely to travel into the area , by pass north Wales, by pass Chester to have a meal in New Brighton where they can view the cranes in Liverpool.
Ironically, it's Wirral's beautiful beaches and coastline that the council always included on their prestigious brochure !
It's all about local people contributing the tourism market. That's not what I call tourism. Just like the ferries that won't reduce their prices in the winter for locals. Charge full fare and get no visitors ,not from this side of the river at least and then be threatened with closure of another terminal.
Liverpool are the King makers of Wirral now , not our pathetic council that handed all things over to Liverpool a few years ago and now talk about key priorities for tourism in Wirral.

Try Leasowe recreation centre ....always booked up to the hilt and car parking spaces all taken. Particularly on a Sat morning when all the football teams are playing.

There are other National Trust places where people pay for parking ?

Council staff at Wallasey fight for spaces on that patch of land. Most people do pay for parking when at work as most places don;t have their own car park. One prime example is CSA at Woodside. They all used the free Car Park at the Ferries for years, then the council decided to charge thus putting the already struggling Ferries in a difficult position. Passengers already paid enough for the crossing, and it was one good reason not to have to take cars over to Liverpool.

I do understand why the council will not charge on their own patches , I was being awkward, but why should they be entitled to avoid charges that everyone else is forced to pay and then make up more funds from charges to the locals and put businesses under more pressure.

Gibbo is right, the same has happened in many places .

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Did I imagine it, or was this suggested on a previous occasion and the subsequent protests caused a re think?

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Originally Posted by Near_Oval
Did I imagine it, or was this suggested on a previous occasion and the subsequent protests caused a re think?


Yep we had near enough the same on the run up to the budget last year. That time there was also plans to charge for resident's parking which I think is fair but unworkable.

A lot of the problems we have is down to poor planning by the council. The number of Tesco Expresses and similar that pass planning but have have totally inadequate parking is getting really silly.

The Birkenhead Borough Road/Temple Road Tesco is an example, Temple Road was a road that they discouraged traffic by putting sleeping policemen but now there is not only loads of traffic (for a residential non-trunk street) but also numerous cars are parked illegally at the end of the road.

The Moreton Cross Tesco car park is full most of the time and causes dangerous situations with the traffic coming off the roundabout.

The Tesco between Moreton and Meols on Hoylake Road has its car park full much of the time, again this is right on a main junction.

The new Lidl in Oxton is on a main junction that is already a dangerous and busy junction before the shop opens.

The new Aldi in Bromoborough is crazy where people want to turn right out of the car park (to get on A41) but it is right up against a busy set of lights and is total chaos at times.

Etc, etc, etc ....

The planning department is supposed to be authorities on parking and traffic management and they don't have a clue!


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Maybe that's why the snack bar at Moreton Common is for sale .Far less customers are going to park there to get the lovely food sold at present. What a shame

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Whatever happened to "Eurowirral"? The council used to bandy it about everywhere, and although I had no idea what it was, never quite raised enough curiosity to find out where it came from, who was responsible for it and what it was supposed to be or mean.

I suppose we can look forward to Europa Boulevard being renamed 'Brexit Boulevard' at some point too, at vast expense.

The parking charges will help defray the cost of these idiotic caperings perhaps!

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I seem to remember all the austerity stuff kicked off when the Cons got into power because Lab had emptied the coffers..The infamous note on the new chancellors desk..."Good Luck..theres no money left"

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EuroWirral was possibly an agreement for the receipt of EU grants. The EU is very fussy that EU funded things are labelled as such as is the National Lottery.

Brexit Boulevard sounds very good, I'd vote for that. I think you have unintentionally hit a winner there Ex!


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
EuroWirral was possibly an agreement for the receipt of EU grants. The EU is very fussy that EU funded things are labelled as such as is the National Lottery.

Brexit Boulevard sounds very good, I'd vote for that. I think you have unintentionally hit a winner there Ex!


LOL.. I see someone sneeking down with a tin of paint to save the council a few quid.

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EuroWirral was possibly an agreement for the receipt of EU grants. The EU is very fussy that EU funded things are labelled as such as is the National Lottery.

Brexit Boulevard sounds very good, I'd vote for that. I think you have unintentionally hit a winner there Ex!


LOL.. I see someone sneeking down with a tin of paint to save the council a few quid.


Perish the thought!



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Wasn't Euro Wirral something to do with twinning with towns or cities.

Found this too. All you need to know and another reason why so much money was thrown out the window prior to 2008. I don't think it mentions 'car parks' though.


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]eurowirral monitoring report - Wirral Council

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Thats another few places I will never ever go to again. smile

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Originally Posted by Excoriator
You don't HAVE to drive there. And you don't have to drive to walk a dog.


Look at the bigger picture, Wirral is a popular place for tourists. Who have come from out of the area. In a car. I've been coming here since I first discovered it in 1999.

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I dont like the idea of charging, but I think in a few months time, we will all be resigned to it and folks visiting from outside the area probably wont be deterred really as long as the charges arent silly high, as certainly further South , you routinely seem to have to pay for parking spots in nice places for walking and viewing things.
I think it will lead to parking in side roads more though. Most of us will know alternative entrances to many of the places we are talking about.


When drawing the purse strings is necessary, Id certainly rather have carpark charges in non essential places,than cuts in mental health, bin collection etc.

Although Im not a supporter of either party, you're right fish , people soon forget that Labour left us with no money.

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I won`t be paying nothing, sick to the back teeth of these thieves, i pay enough in road tax, i can understand charging around Birkenhead shopping center and the like but the promenades?

Go **** yourselves!


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