Catalan Referendum

Re: Catalan Referendum Excoriator #1045431 8th Oct 2017 11:54am
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Spellbinder Enthusiast Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 159 Home Counties	Originally Posted by Excoriator I didn't say that. I said that the EU is a union of nations, and not a nation itself. This seems to suit everyone, and there is no good reason to change it. Nonsense - as our recent referendum indicates. Originally Posted by Excoriator I didn't say that. I said that the EU is a union of nations, and not a nation itself. This seems to suit everyone, and there is no good reason to change it. Just an opinion. Originally Posted by Excoriator I think you have managed to frighten yourself with a straw man constructed by yourseves. See me.

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Re: Catalan Referendum granny #1045438 8th Oct 2017 2:31pm
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Excoriator Forum Addict Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,927 Likes: 5 wirral	foreignpolicy.com?? Hmmmm. Bit of a neocon rag in my opinion. I'd be careful what you believe in it.

Re: Catalan Referendum Excoriator #1045460 9th Oct 2017 1:14am
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diggingdeeper Wiki Master Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 14,582 Likes: 39 Wirral, Cheshire	Originally Posted by Excoriator foreignpolicy.com?? Hmmmm. Bit of a neocon rag in my opinion. I'd be careful what you believe in it. Ok, how about the thoughts of Germany's outgoing Federal Minister of Finance Wolfgang Schäuble who is soon to become Speaker of the Bundestag.... "Mr Schäuble also welcomed plans to turn the EU into a more integrated bloc, with an EU army and a single tax system " There is huge financial disparity within the EU, sharing a currency, sharing a tax system does the opposite of levelling things out, its a ball and chain around the lesser performing countries which will defeat them. Contrary to previous claims that Brussels haven't interfered with the Catalan situation, they have. They have spoken to Catalonia and condemned their actions. Furthermore they are co-operating with Spain to put a financial squeeze on Catalonia which has already started. Brussels has also stated that if Catalonia was to become independent they would no longer be in the EU and have to negotiate entry from scratch - that is of course unnecessary, a transitional arrangement could be made without kicking EU citizens out of the EU. There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk