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Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: RUDEBOX] #1037910
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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Who is 'we'? *CoughTitheadCough



The we I refer to are the decent people of this country that are outraged at the murder of children !!! Not someone that would protest about anything from a bad smelling fart to a bent carrot. Oh and it is Mr [censored] to you thanks !

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Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037911
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Oh and by the way Rude you are the first person I have seen mention colour, this is about a religion and a set of beliefs not colour.There are people of all races that follow this religion so please don't try to make this a racist issue ! . Mrtithead.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037913
25th May 2017 7:17am
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Pull them all in, every bloody one if them. Put them in camps, vet them to the last. Dig deep in their History. Only then, let them back on to our streets to clean live, as some of them do. Then deal with the ... that's left. Take our country back. Rule again. We've let them run like rats around us, mosques built, markets on t.v that look like no where in england, you would think you were in. " old Baghdad " watching it.

Its going to take a 100 years for this to move through History, not over night.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037914
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Whey hey lollipop, well said and well done for saying what a lot of people are afraid to say.I for one applaud you. Now you must face the sound of those distant drums smile I'm sure you will hear them x

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: RUDEBOX] #1037916
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I think the only person I could raise my "issues" with would be Allah, I would ask him why Muslims must strike at infidels and rid the world of none believers, and promise the gullible that their reward would be to be met with 70 odd virgins when they reached paradise( those 70 odd being women, second class citizens to be used as when and where) I would ask him why he told his followers that Christianity was a lie and that Jesus was a false profit, and why do they hide their faces, are they ashamed? I could go on about gay people etc, etc.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: casper] #1037919
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Originally Posted by casper
I think the only person I could raise my "issues" with would be Allah, I would ask him why Muslims must strike at infidels and rid the world of none believers, and promise the gullible that their reward would be to be met with 70 odd virgins when they reached paradise( those 70 odd being women, second class citizens to be used as when and where) I would ask him why he told his followers that Christianity was a lie and that Jesus was a false profit, and why do they hide their faces, are they ashamed? I could go on about gay people etc, etc.
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Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: Dilly] #1037922
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Originally Posted by Dilly
Whey hey lollipop, well said and well done for saying what a lot of people are afraid to say.I for one applaud you. Now you must face the sound of those distant drums smile I'm sure you will hear them x
Did anyone else start singing "Distant Drums" by Jim Reeves to themselves?

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037923
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I wish to apologize to mark for not adhering to "The Wiki Spirit"I knew my post was a tad to far and fully expected the outcome.
When a poster accepts that he is inviting Q--before I get the usual diatribe back" "the sound of distant drums" don.t start crying like a crowd of school girls because some people have a different view.
I have no religion but do not mind casper acknowledging the existence of Allah, Rudebox has been on my ignore list since being accused of stalking (disagreeing to often) Beethoven grow some balls and say who you mean. I have been on more than half a dozen Wiki Meets so I have the advantage of knowing who I address sometimes.I have a lot of respect for Mark and what he does.I just wish The Famous Five would treat everybody with the same decorum.I apologize for not being able to hate (sarcasm)I would feel privileged to shoot anybody taking part in terrorism not because I hate them but because they deserve it.I expect the same from our armed police and troops, if one let loose tomorrow because of hate we loose.
Please do not judge me for what I write because more than likely you will be wrong. Respect!!.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037924
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Thank you Dustymclean but my gonads are quite well developed thank you. I have had my membership withdrawn on several occaisions for having the temerity to criticise the person to whom I referred and have now decided not to mention the member by name as he/she can apparently spout his/her bile with total impunity. But thanks again for taking an interest in my nether regions.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037925
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No Problem, Keep on polishing them, you may need to use them again sometime soon.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037926
25th May 2017 10:37am
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" Drums " ???? Not interested

Now iam on a wall building job soon!! Just waiting for a call from my good friend Donald!!!

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037927
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I've got into a heated debate with people on Facebook about this. As a liberal atheist I have no more time for Islam than any other religion. It's all guff to me. Many would claim that Islam is a religion of peace which is being hijacked by extremists. Unfortunately, Islam is not a religion of peace, it's a religion of barbarity. Take for instance:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/wife-beating.aspx
or indeed
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx

Fundamentalist Islam is mental poison and armed superstition. Parents pass this on to their children. The cycle of ignorance continues in the 21st century. What is the answer ? We could demolish all mosques in the UK, seize their assets and give them to the NHS. That would probably just create further war and bloodshed.

I wish peace and enlightenment through science on the Muslim communities in the UK. Let them abandon their poisonous nonsense and come and have a drink with us.

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Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037929
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My granddaughter and son in law were close to the bomb when it went off and although they were unhurt, were pretty traumatised by what they saw.

I wish some of our politicians would take some responsibility for this though. (None of them do) Right or wrong, it is a response to things we have done with the Americans in the middle east and is the inevitable result of these military exercises. We are in a war, and bad things happen in wars. In my book it is the politician's primary duty not to indulge in them. Wars are failures of diplomacy in the end.

Finally, I can't see why the pictures that the USA published should have been kept secret. They are not images one would wish to see, but I can't see how secrecy helps anyone. Also, given that they were secret, I can't see why they should have been shared with the Americans anyway. Do we receive pictures of shootings in drug stores in America?

Perhaps someone will explain.

Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: granny] #1037930
25th May 2017 11:53am
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Just been mentioned on the news that 5 terrorist attacks have been foiled in the UK since the Houses of Parliament attack in March and 18 since 2013. That would indicate to me why they don't want intelligence sharing leaked. The New York Times also gave the name of this latest terrorist before our own police, and the reason our own released it so soon in this country.

They have also announced that the UK police have atm stopped sharing intelligence with USA.

Taking those failed attacks into consideration, people do have a complete right to be very angry and voice their opinions, so long as they don't turn physical which can easily happen. IMO.
The general public have been quenched over and over again and those responsible of the crimes know there is no retribution. My personal opinion is to send their family members and extended families back to the land of origin we need to forget the human rights issues in those countries, as it would seem, not too many considered the human rights of any who have succumbed to such attacks, that might make them think twice and it might not.

Mouthing off against Allah, will only make them more determined, that is the biggest insult and greatest cause of anger within the Islamic Faith, so be warned ! However, I think some are getting confused with followers of Islam and those who pretend to be of the Islamic faith ! They are killers.

Whatever is going on right now, it's like a cancer. War ? yes Id' say so.


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: Manchester Arena Explosion. [Re: dustymclean] #1037938
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We all have our own opinions dusty, who is to say who is right and who is wrong in their appraisal of things, By the way I am also non religious, I did not recognise Allah as you put it , my post was a generic response to a post from Rudebox who suggested I seek some answers from an Imam, perhaps we should all read the koran and find out for ourselves what the true intentions of their religion are.

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