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Re: Ian Brady
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15th May 2017 11:25am
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granny
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Brady gravely ill receiving palliative care according to the news, what a shame NOT! Hope he lingers on in pain for a while then disappears off this earth, vile creature!! Seconded !
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Ian Brady
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16th May 2017 10:09am
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granny
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I wonder if this man had any family ? They must have served his sentence too and their pain must have been far greater than anything he suffered.
So many broken people.
I shall never understand why Lord Longford battled to win Myra Hindley's parole for decades.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Ian Brady
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16th May 2017 10:23am
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It could have been an exceedingly shrewd move by Lord Longford. It was his actions that kept them in jail.
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton
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Re: Ian Brady
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16th May 2017 10:55am
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Possibly was his intentions.
I remember all the goings on at the time, but too young to take much interest or in the following years. We only had the radio and of course, news was restricted to certain times of day.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Re: Ian Brady
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16th May 2017 12:25pm
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Longford was often classed as being quite thick but if you look at what he managed to change despite it often being against the odds, he was clearly a lot cleverer/shrewder than he was given credit for.
Sometimes at a later date a contradiction would become clear eg he was totally opposed to homosexuality and fought against homosexual rights but was also one of the main protagonists for basic homosexual rights.
If it wasn't for Longford, Hindley's and Brady's cases would have disappeared out the public eye and they would have eventually been paroled, especially as much more lenient sentencing was becoming the norm as well as the wish of the system to reform prisoners instead of keeping them inside.
Hindley realised the damage Longford was doing to her chances of parole and eventually shunned him - but he carried on, knowing full well the damage he was doing. Hindley might have thought she was playing him at one time and this might have been his revenge.
Nobody knows for sure whether Longford was playing a game or not but there is certainly a chance. Religion has always been a useful weapon to some but it can be used two ways.
Last edited by diggingdeeper; 16th May 2017 12:28pm.
The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020
Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton
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Re: Ian Brady
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16th May 2017 3:08pm
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I would like to think you were right DD, but I doubt that it was his intention, more like he thought the god squad had got through to her, only one manipulator there, as regards parole no chance public opinion was too strong, I read the book many years ago, it still gives me shivers to think of the horrifying ordeal that was carried out on those children especially Lesley Anne Downe, and fills me with a dread and a feeling that I wish I could have done something personally, no doubt a feeling of helplessness as a parent that couldn't protect a child, and Hindley stood by and let it happen, sickening.
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