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Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary #1037018
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Dear Diane Abbott, I'm sure we've had her in front of the Wiki panel before think

Well, here she is again. Not only but also.

After her gaff about the gross miscalculations on costing for the 10,000 police officers, she's at it again.

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During a car crash interview with ITN, the Shadow Home Secretary was left floundering over figures for the second time this week.

When queried by the interviewer about the number of seats Labour has lost in the local elections, she said: “At the time of us doing this interview I think the net losses are about 50.”

The interviewer replies: “They’re actually about 125.”
Ms Abbott pauses before altering her answer, saying: “Well the last time I looked we had net losses of 100 but obviously this is a moving picture.”

On social media many listeners hit out at the politician, describing her as "embarassing" and "comedy gold".



Watch the video.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...ours-local-election-losses-a3531811.html

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Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: granny] #1037021
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That was in the middle of the counting, she can't be doing interviews and watch the results at the same time - unlike the interviewer who gets the figures from the producer over the earpiece. Looks like she was very much set up knowing it would make good press.


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Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: diggingdeeper] #1037022
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So why did she think net losses were 50, but the last time she looked they were 100 ? Is that feasible ?


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Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: granny] #1037023
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Probably just after the point she realised she had been set up.

Its the classic media set up question "do you know", the recipient can't admit they don't know but doesn't know the answer either. Why everyone expects them to be walking encyclopedias I don't know but that is the expectation.


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Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: granny] #1037049
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What a joke this woman is, just like the whole lot of them!! JC saying he going to do this , he going to do that, pour money into everything, this by taxing the rich. It sounds great , miraculous even but what happens when all the rich have moved on companies close leaving more people unemployed more welfare benefits to come out. The money soon will run out leaving the country worse than ever. His promises don't hold water to me at all. I wouldn't trust that lot to run a child's tea-party much less a country...

Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: granny] #1037060
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The distribution of wealth needs sorting out, the wealthy got 15% richer last year in the UK, that is a huge cut of the nation's wealth gone to a very few number of people at the cost to others.

The tories have no plans that will sort this out, they quote the same old stuff to placate the people but never carry it out except when its a double edged sword.

Corbyn wants to sort it out but of course the right wing blairites in his party will probably snooker him. Corbyn's plan is going to be fully costed, something the tories have never done but even at this stage the blairites will be feeding false figures into his calculations so he can be discredited.

I'd love anyone to explain the following ....

If a company does well, the hierarchy get 15%+ pay rises (often a lot more directly or indirectly), the workers get 3%- pay rise.

If a company does badly, the hierarchy still get a 10%+ pay rise but the workers get a pay cut or pay freeze.

This is not socialism, communism or anything else, its basic fairness that needs sorting out.


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Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: cools] #1037061
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They're all jokers ,Cools. Even 'This Week', where Diane Abbott used to be a resident sofa warmer, are taking the mickey out of her now. (In the nicest possible way)

Today leaked manifesto, Liverpool in a spin and having a bun fight because Joe Anderson hasn't been elected as MP for Walton, Len Mccluskey's aid has.. raftl

For any of the centre left Labour MP's to be standing behind this bunch of w....s, surely means they are too, and simply sticking like glue for their own purposes.
Have to say there are also a bunch of muppets distributed throughout all political parties atm. but I think Mrs May will stick to her guns and get the best deal for us, which is probably the most critical.

Trouble is, Corbyn and his leftist friends, from which ever party they descended from, are just pulling party tricks out of a box that's been found in attic from the 1970's .

I can also see a Derek Hatton revival in Liverpool, same place but a different name.

Diane and Jezza go back a long way, and their loyalties to each other are incredible ! Proof of how corrupt institutions are at top levels ,and many another would have been fired. Strange how the man accuses everyone else for corruption but I suppose it depends on who the givers and who the takers are.

If we take a look at what happening in Venezuela now, the richest country with oil, no medicines no food, no anything but that's the result of socialism in this day and age.

Just seen your post DD, and if the tax is increased for thoe over £80,000 as Mr Corbyn sees possible, the wage increases will be a lot higher for those earning over £80.000. So the Government will get even more tax and companies will pay escalating wages to the higher earners and joe blogs will be paying escalating prices for anything and everything. MP's salaries p to £75,000........just not quite enough to be included. Hahahaha !

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Headlines, Labour taking us back to the 70's, Tories taking us back to the 1870's.

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If we take a look at what happening in Venezuela now, the richest country with oil, no medicines no food, no anything but that's the result of socialism in this day and age.

It doesn't matter what party someone belongs to
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

Venezuela ex-ministers seek probe into $300 billion in lost oil revenue.
According to Transparency International, Venezuela is the ninth most corrupt country in the world. Member’s of Maduro’s family and immediate entourage have been implicated in drug smuggling and hundreds of billions of dollars are believed to have been syphoned out of the economy

country by corruption list

Re: Will Jezza's ' Diane' , be the next Home Secretary [Re: derekdwc] #1037068
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Derek, your linked list is top ten of the least corrupt in the world.

The top 10 ranked nations perceived to be the least corrupt are:
•Denmark
•New Zealand
•Finland
•Sweden
•Switzerland
•Norway
•Singapore
•Netherlands
•Canada
•Germany

And the most corrupt countries as ranked on the Corruption Perceptions Index 2016 are:
•Somalia
•South Sudan
•North Korea
•Syria
•Yemen
•Sudan
•Libya
•Afghanistan
•Guinea-Bissau
•Venezuela

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/24/these-are-the-worlds-most-corrupt-countries.html

Hugo Chavez severed ties with the World Bank and the IMF in 2007, and although the World Bank has offered to help Venezuela last month, so far the offer has not been taken up. Probably because Maduro knows he'd have to agree to concessions. (like pushing off into another galaxy) Inflation rose to 800% last year and this is a Socialist Government ! Killing their pets to eat, raiding supermarkets, army running over people with army vehicles, sharp rise in child deaths, military trafficking food,and so it goes on. United Socialist Party of Venezuela ( Government) !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-latin-america-39828768/armoured-car-hits-venezuelan-protesters




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Originally Posted by casper
Headlines, Labour taking us back to the 70's, Tories taking us back to the 1870's.


1870 to 1914

World’s most powerful empire saw a period of reform that gradually increased political democracy and improved economic and social conditions for all. laffin


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Oooops ! and another..

"There's a car coming in, mind out of the way" .. as the photographer was lying on the ground after being knocked down by Corbyns car !! laugh

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-39886810/moment-bbc-cameraman-injured-by-corbyn-car


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Originally Posted by derekdwc
If we take a look at what happening in Venezuela now, the richest country with oil, no medicines no food, no anything but that's the result of socialism in this day and age.


Venezuela was a federal republic last time I checked. The problems there since 2000 was they made some changes far to fast, you can't make sudden changes to social-economic factors and expect stability.

Originally Posted by granny
1870 to 1914

World’s most powerful empire saw a period of reform that gradually increased political democracy and improved economic and social conditions for all. laffin


According to the Government at the time, I don't think the lower classes would see it that way. A lot of progress in that era was dependent upon philanthropy, not Government policy.


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Hierarchy has always existed in all cultures in every species be it mankind or animals even down to the humble ant or bees. Have and have nots. That's how the world turns I'm afraid, don't see how him with his bumbling cohorts will change that. Wish I was on one of the rich lists. Yes, there are changes I'd like to see and hope that we all get a bit more prosperous in the future and things improve but it will be done realistically and not spouting alot of hot air.

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DD.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/venezuela-nicolas-maduro-socialist-party-losing-influence-power-2017-1


The Socialist Party of Venezuela, first under Hugo Chavez and now under Nicolas Maduro, has held the country's presidency for 18 years, since Chavez swept into office at the end of 1998.

But recent years have been tumultuous for the PSUV, the Socialist Party's initials in Spanish.


Cools ,well said.


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