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Waiting for someone in Asda carpark Chester one dry but windy day recently when a nice Mercedes with three Asians in, drew up and parked in the opposite aisle . Woman, husband and adult son it would seem. OH being a petrolhead was staring admiring the car , when quite suddenly they all got out and started staring intently all around them , and pointing here and there. Finally the woman, dove back into the car ,divested herself of one garment and re-appeared with a new garment which she struggled in the strong wind to get into. Next out was a prayer mat ,also victim to the wind when she attempted to keep it in place on the carpark tarmac . Her husband got back into the car, and the helpful son put his feet on the corners of theflapping mat. The woman then , prostrated herself on it (presumably hoping she was now facing East) and continued to pray for 10 minutes solid. Now THAT is dedication!
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Waiting for someone in Asda carpark Chester one dry but windy day recently when a nice Mercedes with three Asians in, drew up and parked in the opposite aisle . Woman, husband and adult son it would seem. OH being a petrolhead was staring admiring the car , when quite suddenly they all got out and started staring intently all around them , and pointing here and there. Finally the woman, dove back into the car ,divested herself of one garment and re-appeared with a new garment which she struggled in the strong wind to get into. Next out was a prayer mat ,also victim to the wind when she attempted to keep it in place on the carpark tarmac . Her husband got back into the car, and the helpful son put his feet on the corners of theflapping mat. The woman then , prostrated herself on it (presumably hoping she was now facing East) and continued to pray for 10 minutes solid. Now THAT is dedication! I wouldn't say dedication, I'd call it fanatical !
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I'd call it faith. If I was a Muslim in unfamiliar territory I think I'd carry a compass with me - and possibly a street atlas so I didn't have to end up praying in a car park?
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Religion is dangerous Always has been Henry VIII wanted a divorce but religion ruled he could not So he made his own rules Religion as a premise is fine but it's the way people can manipulate it that makes it bad
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Agreed Greenwood ,or Id improve my time planning to make sure I was somewhere more private at the specific time prayer was required. Dilly , Im just watching my p's and q's Mike , Yep.
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Waiting for someone in Asda carpark Chester one dry day recently when a nice Mercedes with three Asians in, drew up and parked in the opposite aisle . Woman, husband and adult son it would seem. OH being a petrolhead was staring admiring the car , when quite suddenly they all got out and started staring intently all around them , and pointing here and there. Finally the woman, dove back into the car ,divested herself of one garment and re-appeared with a new garment . Next out was a prayer mat , on the carpark tarmac . Her husband got back into the car, The woman then , prostrated herself on it (presumably hoping she was now facing East) and continued to pray for 10 minutes solid. Now THAT is dedication! Edited to remove references to Wind - is the womans praying still dedication?
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Not sure if Im picking up your point Rude, but yes , the wind just made the procedure that bit more of a challenge.
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Maybe she had just bought it from Dunelm and was giving it a test. Is it when they start shouting Allah Akhbar that we need to get worried.
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Religion is dangerous Always has been Henry VIII wanted a divorce but religion ruled he could not So he made his own rules Religion as a premise is fine but it's the way people can manipulate it that makes it bad
Henry VIII must have done us all a favour and we didn't expect to find Richard III in a car park either. Anyway, there is a Mosque in Chester, but I think their prayers have to be said at certain times of day and basically, exactly where you are at that given time. Similar to those who were getting rid of 'demons' in the Mersey a few years ago. I can't remember which group they were. [youtube]HWZ0kScQT14[/youtube]
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What Henry VIII shown was that you can believe in something else and not go to hell He is the King after all (Just believe in me or die ) I was building the foundation for a mosque in Oldham and there was an old guy there every morning coming out of the mosque at about 7:15 - 7:30. obviously finishing prayer. Let me tell tell you, our worlds could not have been different, what a gentleman He was doing what he believed and didn't look at us any different and always said hello, unlike some of the younger flock that turned up in the afternoon and didn't like us or acknowledge us if we said hello This was a tough crowd And let me tell you (again) we are just as ignorant as them
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What Henry VIII shown was that you can believe in something else and not go to hell He is the King after all (Just believe in me or die ) No, Henry VIII didn't like the 'rules' of the Roman Catholic Church. That's different; and may I ask, how Mikey, do you know where he ended up or didn't end up ????
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No, Henry VIII didn't like the 'rules' of the Roman Catholic Church. That's different; and may I ask, how Mikey, do you know where he ended up or didn't end up ???? That is not different granny If he actually believed in 'heaven and hell' he would not have broken the rules of the bible. Did everyone that was forced to follow his new 'reformation' through duress, die and go to hell? The ones that followed, followed a higher power, or die "and may I ask, how Mikey, do you know where he ended up or didn't end up ???? " That is why I do not follow a certain religion. When the time comes and you find out you were wrong all this time, DOH! I believe there is something, I just don't know what
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granny Never stop debating
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I'd have been more impressed if the mat levitated and she flew off somewhere on it.
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