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Scotland has already said it would expect England to clear out of Holy Loch, DD. It was said at the time of their Scexit attempt.

The House of Lords is full of crooks. Farage would fit in nicely, except for his inability to stop shouting.

The future of the EU is a lot brighter than that of the UK. It is ludicrous in the extreme to believe it will not survive brexit. It will, but in order to send a clear message to any waverers who may want to do the same, they will not make leaving easy for us. In particular, free market trading will NOT be allowed without free movement. They have already made this clear, and our leave supporters are already backpeddling like crazy on promises to limit immigration made during the campaign.

As to birthrate, you have to look a long way ahead to work out the effect of birthrates now.I reckon we have a birth shortfall of around 250,000 babies a year - a figure curiously close to the level of immigration we've seen. One might even suspect someone in the government has done some demographic modelling and allowed that number in deliberately whilst promising to limit them.

I see Plaid Cymru is now talking about Wales leaving the sinking ship too, just like Scotland, and London is fiercely supportive of remaining in the EU. I wouldn't be surprised to see it too wanting to leave and Join the EU as a nation state. Its a lot bigger than Monaco, for instance, which although it is not formally a member of the Euro is a de-facto member in most obvious ways. It is allowed to print its own Euros for instance.

I hope you think this break-up of the UK, the government chaos, the downward spiral of the pound and shares is worth it, but I most certainly don't.

Not at all, a few members states of EU are doing well, a large number of others are doing very badly and the EU has made it quite clear that they cannot pull them out the ditch.

There are very few countries in the World that are doing badly except those at war, the amount of countries in the EU that are doing badly is disproportionately large.

Greece has suffered deflation for 39 months on the run and they are about to be hit with yet more conditions that limit their growth and employment rate.

Spain is in its 10th month of deflation.

Bulgaria is in its 8th month of deflation.

Croatia is in its 24th month (or more) of deflation.

Cyprus has over 24 months of deflation.

Italy is in its 4th month of deflation.

The EU is in its 4th month of deflation.

France is in its 4th month of deflation.

Portugal will probably go into deflation.

The Czech Republic is probably just about to go into deflation.

Germany is wavering around in and out of deflation.

Austria is just keeping out of deflation.

If you want I will look up the rest but there is no need as I'm sure you get the gist. There are a few doing well, but not many at all (eg UK, Belgium etc)