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Re: Eastham Ferry...Ferry setting off point Wirral and Liverpool Sid bert1 16 hours ago
According to the 1861 directory, all ferries sailing from Wirral went to the Liverpool South Landing Stage, this appears to be the Georges Landing Stage, Georges Pier Head, erected in 1847.

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Landing_Stage,_Liverpool
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Re: Family Alldis bert1 Yesterday at 05:54 PM
A couple of little bits you may not have,

Gilbert Guile Alldis, Stonemason. In 1934, he knocked a cyclist off his bike and was fined £1 for driving without due care and fined 10s for driving without a licence, plus costs.

His son, Gilbert John Alldis signed for Tranmere Rovers in 1938 and for New Brighton FC in 1950.
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Re: Eastham Ferry...Ferry setting off point Wirral and Liverpool Sid diggingdeeper Yesterday at 05:24 PM
Yes it is an old slipway an the steps immediately to the south and the other steps just north are very old as well. However it has been a shallow water area for a long time (almost a marsh) but this might have been a place where boats (especially fishing boats) were laid up. The water would never have been deep enough to run a reliable ferry service.

I think it is to far up river to be directly linked to shellfish (wild guess!) which much of Liverpool ate in the 19th century.

I was doing some notes the other day about mersey ferries but I've forgotten where the south Liverpool ferries were, I think it was Garston but I will check later when my stomach stops reminding me it has been abandoned.
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Family Alldis Alldis Yesterday at 05:15 PM
Hello everyone
My name is Neal Alldis and i am from Switzerland. I am doing some research for my family tree of Alldis.
I have quit a lot but maybe you have some more information from Gilbert Alldis and his family who lived in Birkenhead at 8Moreton Street.
At 168 Conway Street they had a shop he and his brother i think William Alldis where Stonemasonrys.

Maybe there are some pictures from the shop?

thanks for any help
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Re: Eastham Ferry...Ferry setting off point Wirral and Liverpool Sid bert1 Yesterday at 03:51 PM
A little bit of info here, https://www.wirralhistory.uk/monksferry.html

Oddly there's a house in Rock Ferry called Grassendale and a house in Grassendale call Monksferry.
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Eastham Ferry...Ferry setting off point Wirral and Liverpool Sid nickaxe Yesterday at 01:31 PM
Hi all wonder if anybody can solve a puzzle.....over on the Liverpool side of the river is an area named Grassendale.....next to Garston Docks.

At the river end of North road in the very smart Grassendale area is what to me was a slip way.....very old....and well built.....sandstone

blocks.....has a road attached to it now not passible but still there leading back toward the main road in Garston....visible on Google Earth

I am wondering if the slipway or what ever it was was the dropping off point on the Liverpool side of the River for the ferry that crossed the river.

I seem to think it was Monks who ran the ferry.....so where on the Wirral side would it set off....Eastham??? maybe Jobs ferry.

And could this spot in Liverpool indeed be the ferry's destination.

Nick.
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Re: Burton Marsh WW2 060 OTU Practise Bombing Targets nickaxe Yesterday at 01:09 PM
So glad I found this topic....answers a question regarding my dads war service with the Royal Engineers I think it was Maybe the REME?

He told me as a younger lad that during the WW2 he was stationed at Burton Manor.....what an easy posting we thought.....later on in life when he was no longer here to ask I got wondering.....what an earth where the REME doing based at Burton Manor.

Well I am now presuming he was involved in erecting these targets ect.

Got to know the area quite well in recent years visiting Parkgate ect.

Many thanks to the OP....solved a long time mystery.
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Re: Lucy Letby diggingdeeper 1st Jul 2025 12:46pm
Three managers from the Countess of Chester Hospital have now been arrested for suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter. Presumably attempts to hide the department's failings are among the reasons this has come about. Investigations into this matter are ongoing.

It should be noted that the police investigations into the deaths of the babies is still ongoing as a separate issue.
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Re: Removed Mother from Grave bert1 30th Jun 2025 5:18am
Granny, its meant to be whatever you want it to be, on my part I just wanted to correct a few myths, including one from myself.

Thanks DD,
That is the statement given to Detective Inspector Smith.

Raymond had another brush with the law in 1978, being of no fixed abode and claiming he hadn't eaten for a week walked out of a restaurant without paying and stole a knife for good measure. He was sent for psychiatric assessment.

The Leighton Rd address is that of his brother who along with Raymond is mentioned in his mothers probate. His mother left a total of £1,799-13s-3d
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Re: Removed Mother from Grave granny 29th Jun 2025 11:16pm
raftl

Having a peep at Wiki, this caught my eye. How bizzare . Poor woman, although she might have been hovering..... we'll never know !

Can't imagine why nobody else has found this rather amusing. (or is it meant to be sad ?)
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Re: Removed Mother from Grave diggingdeeper 29th Jun 2025 10:26pm
A bit more detail about the events:-

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The son said, 'As soon as my mother died I thought of trying to bring her back with electric treatment. I saw a policeman at Well Lane and told him I thought there was a chance of bringing her back to life but he said, 'You don't want to be messing about with a body'. I went to my mother's funeral from Leighton Road and after it was over I decided to have a go at bringing her back to life. On the same afternoon I went to Duke Street Garage and hired a car for one day and about 6 o'clock that night I went to Bebington Cemetery. I climbed over the wall with my spade and dug the grave. I opened the coffin with the spade and took mother out. I filled the grave in again and took mother in the back of the car to an empty house in Borough Road by Baileys Furniture Shop. I couldn't get into the house because it was locked so I had to leave mother in an outhouse at the back. The back door was open when I got here so I locked it and climbed out. I took the day off work on the Monday and went to three estate agents in Hamilton Square to find an empty house. At one I saw a house advertised for sale at 108 Claughton Road so I asked about buying it. I got the keys off the man to view the house'.

He went on to say that he got the keys to view the property for a few hours and then used his firm's van to collect his mother's body and took her to 108 Claughton Road and put her body in the kitchen.

He then said, 'I left mother covered with a blanket and next day, during dinner time, I mixed a plasma in a kind of lemonade bottle. I made it with a sugar that I melted, lime juice and milk. I then took it to Claughton Road to feed mother, and gave her some. Nearly every lunch time I went back that week and gave her some more plasma, but on the Saturday I started the electrical treatment. I rigged up a wire in the room and attached it to her foot. The electricity must have shorted because when I went back the next day I found it had done some damage to her foot. I have not had much chance to try any other treatment since that day. I was going to buy a house with the money mother left me and I was going to get good equipment to give mother proper electric treatment. She was a good mother to me and I was doing my best for her'.
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Removed Mother from Grave bert1 29th Jun 2025 5:44am
https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums...her-back-to-life-in-the-1960s#Post301518


I came across this old thread and thought I'd look into it more. I've withheld the surnames for the protection of any living relatives. After reading 30+ newspaper reports these are the facts.

Mrs Emily ??? died on the 18th October 1960 of a stroke in hospital, she was 69 years old and a widow. She lived in Durley Dr, Prenton.
She was buried on the 22nd October in Bebington Cemetery.

Her son Raymond James ???, 33 of Cole St, went into Well Lane Police Station to seek permission to try and bring his mother back to life using electronics.
He was told he could not play about with bodies and would get in serious trouble should he do so.

After the funeral he went to Bebington Cemetery in a hired car and removed his mother from the grave, he replaced the coffin in the grave and made it look as if it had never been disturbed so it wouldn't be noticed.

He took his mother to an empty house in Claughton Rd and tried to revive her by feeding her sugar, lime juice and milk On October 29th he connected an Electrical Flex from a socket to his mothers foot in an attempt to bring her back to life. The body was found on December 17th 1960 in the empty house.

At the trial Mr Justice McNair said Raymond James ??? should not be tried as a criminal but as a mentally ill person.
Dr Benadict Finkleman report stated Raymond James was suffering from Paranoid Schizophrenia.

Raymond James ??? was committed to Deva Hospital, Chester.

I checked the burial records for Emily and she was buried Oct 22 1960, there's an added note stating, body unlawfully removed by son.
Emily was cremated at Landican Cemetery, 24th December, 1960.

A person of the same age and name Raymond James ??? died in a Liverpool Nursing Home in 2011.
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