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Re: New Novichok Saga [Re: granny] #1057391
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The no pall bearers story appears to be just that. Apparently they did have them to carry her coffin. Either crap journalism or deliberate disinformation...
Think there was an article prior to amesbury warning druggies about dodgy fentanyl doing the rounds which has some similar side effects.

In the skripal case i read he got quite animated in the restaurant according to other diners...i wondered if this was because he realised something had gone wrong suggesting prior knowledge on his part.
Can we get james bond in on the case

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I think James would find it just as much a mystery .


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Interesting if true....QINETIQ | Ex-Partner Of New Novichok Victim Works For US/UK Defense Contractor Linked To Porton Down


https://steemkr.com/news/@fortified/qinetiq-or-ex-partner-of-new-novichok-victim-works-for-us-uk-defense-contractor-linked-to-porton-down

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Latest i came across

" Mr Rowley told ITV News he had earlier found a sealed bottle of perfume and given it to Ms Sturgess, who sprayed the substance on her wrist"

A SEALED bottle... How do you put Novichock in a sealed bottle?

US putting there oar in now "The US is to impose sanctions on Russia after determining (not proving) that it used nerve agent against former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal in the UK in March.

The move was announced on Wednesday by the US state department."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45122723

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US getting involved puts the picture more clearly so far as I:m concerned. Taking the weight and questionable, challenging, cock ups off Mrs May's shoulders, so UK can say they have completed all their enquiries, whilst US do the attack from which CIA involvement was quite possible...... and let us never forget... they know everything ! . Strange .

It is on similar lines to 9/11 , which many still don't believe in the evidence provided. Which in the case of the Pentagon, there wasn't any. We don't even know if a plane crashed at all.

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There is cctv security camera evidence for the 911 pentagon attack and it comes in the shape of a missile not a plane. Its the Pentagons own cctv camera. Thats why it was a circular hole and not a plane shaped one..

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Originally Posted by fish5133
There is cctv security camera evidence for the 911 pentagon attack and it comes in the shape of a missile not a plane. Its the Pentagons own cctv camera. Thats why it was a circular hole and not a plane shaped one..


So what happened to the supposedly 200 passengers, where they riding on it's back ?

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Most of the nearly 200 victims were personnel in the Pentagon, there were only 64 people on board Flight 77.

As far as the video goes, all video compression techniques can produce very approximate representations of fast moving objects, especially when they only occur in a very small number of frames, in this instance it was only in one frame so the chances of a still being anything like the real object is very remote. This also explains the video of the aircraft that hit one of the towers appearing to have hit it before contact (sometimes accused of being a missile in front of the aircraft), this is a normal effect in compressed videos.

But the question still remains: where did the wings and engines impact the Pentagon?


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Exactly ! So far as the Pentagon staff is concerned , it was said to be a skeleton staff on the day and wasn't that part of the building hit, just been renovated or re-fitted and no one was in the offices ? I'm sure I read something like that.

So far as the staff are concerned, my cousins son was employed there, and that same day rather a lot of staff had been despatched to other places as he was too !


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Originally Posted by granny
Exactly ! So far as the Pentagon staff is concerned , it was said to be a skeleton staff on the day and wasn't that part of the building hit, just been renovated or re-fitted and no one was in the offices ? I'm sure I read something like that.


I remember that being the story as well, that is was closed off for refurbishment, however now the story says 125 Pentagon staff were killed and they had moved in after the refurbishment.


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Sergei Skripal's house has been undergoing a decontamination process since March. They are now going to remove and replace the roof of the house and garage???

I'm sure they haven't been collecting all the rain that has run off the roof, perhaps it is to get better access to the attic but if contamination has drifted up there then surely the contamination could have drifted further afield and certainly into neighbours properties?


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Re: New Novichok Saga [Re: granny] #1063880
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Its like they need to put the story back in the newspapers to remind us how awfully nasty the Russians are (especially when they have recently arrested the US guy for alleged spying)

The photo on this article shows noone in PPE suits and yet the story says all materials will be wrapped sealed in bags and taken away. So we have scaffolding guys in normal clothing going up to the roof and yet its going to be a "military team dismantling it"

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...antled-novichok-attack/story?id=60230222

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The whole thing seems to be a big windup . If the stuff was administered to the door handle, on the outside, how the heck does it get into the roof ?Did it get into the roof of the policeman's home , or into the roof of the eating place they visited.
If indeed it did get 'into' the Skripal's home, then how on earth could it... we haven't been told that have we ?

I agree with you Fish and DD, obviously some anti- Russian propaganda is about to be played again, in the not too distant future. We shall see.


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Ha ha. It has now come to light that the first person on the scene was the daughter of the Army's chief medical officer who was nearby. Carl Jung once asked 'What are the roots of coincidence',?

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Originally Posted by thesilentenigma
Ha ha. It has now come to light that the first person on the scene was the daughter of the Army's chief medical officer who was nearby. Carl Jung once asked 'What are the roots of coincidence',?

Yes just read that story in the Salisbury local radio website https://www.spirefm.co.uk/news/loca...bes-moment-she-found-collapsed-skripals/

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