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#997891 - 12th Jan 2016 12:24am Your Suggestion For More Cuts
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Dear Resident

You may already be aware from reading the local press that challenging times continue and the cuts are far from over: Wirral is looking at another £126 million in cuts over the next five years – on top of the £150 million that we’ve already lost from our budget since austerity began.

We anticipate that just next year we will have to reduce our spending by at least £26 million. Over 5,000 residents have already had their say on how we should go about this by answering a short questionnaire. If you haven't completed the questionnaire yet, make sure you don’t miss the chance to have your voice heard.

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Find out more by visiting our website

This is the fifth consecutive year we have been forced into making extremely difficult decisions when setting the council budget. We have listened to residents each and every year and we commit to doing so again. Please find the time to let us have your views.

Best wishes

Phil Davies
Leader of Wirral Council


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#997892 - 12th Jan 2016 12:34am Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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Already done. Disapproved every single cut suggestion. Paper copies available at council buildings with more scope for additional comments ;)Deadline is the 29th Jan btw



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#997907 - 12th Jan 2016 9:33am Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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I hope that all the misled, working-class people who voted conservative at the last election are suitably over-joyed.

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#997921 - 12th Jan 2016 10:59am Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: palemoon]
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Originally Posted By: palemoon
I hope that all the misled, working-class people who voted conservative at the last election are suitably over-joyed.


No one will admit to it, no doubt a lot that did now find themselves victims of Tory policy, remember the Thatcher years I never spoke to anybody who had voted for her, so its amazing how she was voted in, abject denials the same as now, you only need to look at some of the comments on here, there are some who still believe that this government have our best interests at heart.

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#997929 - 12th Jan 2016 11:29am Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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I don't like the cuts anymore than anybody else Casper and can only hope things get better. While Labour have got the likes of Corban as leader whom I personally think is a joke and his own party is in disarray It Instills no confidence in me. I vote for who I think is best for country, I voted For Blair , what a mistake that was look at us now. We have sometime 3rd generation of families who all think it's ok to live off benefits and who think it's beneath them to clean toilets or other such jobs. I've done it and at one time had three part-time jobs just to bring a wage in. Got to turn the mindset round of these people, extremely hard I know but got to happen!

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#997933 - 12th Jan 2016 12:34pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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Nothing worse than a working class Tory!

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#997935 - 12th Jan 2016 12:46pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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@cools but the number of those scrounger a is exceedingly low and make almost no difference to the amount of money available to councils.

I was watching Cameron boast that public spending is up £2000 per person???
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#997938 - 12th Jan 2016 1:05pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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I know that's not the only reason DD but if the benefit bill was not so high there would be more money in the pot to spread around.

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#997939 - 12th Jan 2016 1:11pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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I soppose I'm going off topic here abit but I would love to see the youngsters getting proper apprenticeships not just a year and all these scammy one where the poor kids get left high and dry after a year but one like it used to be. There is a shortage of engineers and other trades and we will need them in the future.

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#997940 - 12th Jan 2016 1:21pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: cools]
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Agree with you about Blair cos I did them and now regret it. As to the Council cuts upper management who call in Consultants obviously can't do their job so sack them and get some who do! Also paid councillors should be cut

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#997942 - 12th Jan 2016 1:51pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: cools]
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I know that's not the only reason DD but if the benefit bill was not so high there would be more money in the pot to spread around.


Its a tiny tiny percentage of the benefits bill, probably in the same order as how much food costs extra because of shop lifting.

Originally Posted By: cools
I soppose I'm going off topic here abit but I would love to see the youngsters getting proper apprenticeships not just a year and all these scammy one where the poor kids get left high and dry after a year but one like it used to be. There is a shortage of engineers and other trades and we will need them in the future.


Totally agree, the incentives to companies to have apprentices should be the same as the lying cheating training companies get - the longer the person stays in work after completing the apprenticeship, the more money the company gets.

They also need to seriously make trade apprenticeships less academic and more hands on. They need to be trained to do the job, not be a design engineer and expert in paper shuffling. But its all based on the training companies who are paper based instead of company apprenticeships.

Yes - you may detect a tiny note of sourness against training companies.
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#997944 - 12th Jan 2016 2:44pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Ah yes DD the so called Training Companies whose main aim is to make money, push as many as they can through the door, poor quality.

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#997962 - 12th Jan 2016 4:09pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: cools]
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Originally Posted By: cools
I don't like the cuts anymore than anybody else Casper and can only hope things get better. While Labour have got the likes of Corban as leader whom I personally think is a joke and his own party is in disarray It Instills no confidence in me. I vote for who I think is best for country, I voted For Blair , what a mistake that was look at us now. We have sometime 3rd generation of families who all think it's ok to live off benefits and who think it's beneath them to clean toilets or other such jobs. I've done it and at one time had three part-time jobs just to bring a wage in. Got to turn the mindset round of these people, extremely hard I know but got to happen!


Did'nt like Blair myself cools, but look at what we have now, if it was between a Blair or Cameron government who would you vote for? you sound like you have worked hard, like a majority of us who worked in manual jobs, out of doors, working nights, do you really think that this government represents us? the biggest joke I heard was some guy being interviewed and when asked where Jeremy Hunt was his reply was he's working hard in his office, the nearest thing to any work these people have been is wearing a hard hat and hi viz vest for 5 minutes, they emphesize the word "work" as if they invented it, jesus a good hours work would see them off, their idea of work (headwork) is how much money they can make by screwing the taxpayer.

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#997967 - 12th Jan 2016 5:01pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: Kev30x]
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Nothing worse than a working class Tory!



raftl Are you saying that the 'working class' are unable to make their own minds ? How very disrespectful to your equals.

I'm with Cools on this. Maybe we look at how the country can benefit rather than how much we can get out of it. Not saying that benefit cheats are paramount (apart from those who come from foreign places) Three jobs to keep the wolves from the door, done that too Cools.

I would like to ask anyone what the New Labour's legacy was. Make a list and we can all share in it , because so far I cannot think of one inspiring thing.

That's probably why there were rather more than expected ,working class , who voted Tory in 2010.
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#997968 - 12th Jan 2016 5:03pm Re: Your Suggestion For More Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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Cuts in vandalism, cuts in anti-social behaviour, cuts in crime would all be good and save an awful amount of money.

@casper, the early Blair before he got nobbled, but corruption always seems to sink in. Cameron hasn't achieved anything yet apart from destroying social cohesion even further.

Governments always have to make unpopular and difficult decisions but these have to be a means to an end - what would Cameron's or Blair's end target be?

Social cohesion is everything, whether its in riches or poverty.

There are a lot of areas I disagree with Corbyn or Galloway but I trust them more than others.

Love the way anything left of centre is being called extreme left and right of centre is being called moderate??? Someone hijacked the centre mark.
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