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I don't trust Government any more than the next,Conspiracists will have you believe the buildings were brought down with controlled explosives, The way I see it,Planes laden with fuel hits the towers,explodes removing all the fire proof cladding the steel coursing it to heat up and buckle under excessive weight bringing the buildings straight down and pulling the rest with it, since its all tied together its got no were else to go.
Osama bin laden came from a family of builders,and for me top of the suspect list in my view.

Our police and barristers are conspiracy theorists every day when they look at the evidence presented in a crime. Determining credible witnesses, examining forensic evidence.in some cases they get it wrong and fresh evidence comes to light. Same with 9/11. Explosives residue found in dust , bone fragments found on top of buildings indicating explosions, over 200 testimonies of explosions going off,first responder and clear up contractors testimony of molten steel. Physical evidence of molten steel etc etc.

How do you account for the planes hitting the Towers that was also witnessed by thousands .. we all saw the second one hit.

The plane that everyone saw was the wrong colour and wrong shape.

An avgas fire will not melt steel. Without forced air it won't even weaken it and yet the building would have been choking the fire.

This is our old unit,fire started on the Mondeo at the front,apart from the car seats there couldn`t of been more than 5 gallons a diesel between all three vehicles a few gallon of fresh oil on the shelves along with some aerosols,the heat inside was so intense it melted the alloys into pools on the floor, the steel "under weight" lost all its rigidity and keeled over,those ramps in the corner can lift 5 tons but under heat and a bit of pressure it gives in.
world trade buildings were brought down by fire am sticking with that

I was thinking of your garage when I wrote that.

Most of the damage you see is caused by expansion twisting the metal and destabilising the rigid structure and also your garage would have much more through-air draft to feed the fire than the central supports of the towers.

If the steel was heated to the point of becoming plastic the vertical pillars would show signs of bulging under the weight, the joists would show signs of ripping etc, everything is just bent, not molten.

Even some of the glass that was exposed to the fire hadn't melted and don't forget that glass is already a liquid at room temperature, it doesn't take much temperature to make it plastic.

I agree with your comments about alloy, I wonder if some of the talk of lumps of molten steel at 9/11 were actually alloys.