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Not seen the Pope or other Christian leaders defending themselves against the Klu Klux Klan, either.

Thanks for the info', Rude.

Now Turkey are on board for stopping the migrants leaving for Europe, they have been paid a £2 billion deal with the possibility of visa free passage for all natural Turks to move freely in Europe. Now doing the maths, it seems rather extraordinary to say the least. Trying put a stop to about 23 million of Syria's population coming to Europe, millions which are already in camps and displaced but possibly opening the doors to a further 74 million Turks, of whom most are Muslim and have ISIS members also in amongst them. Was that the dangling carrot to be renegade upon , or has someone gone off their trolley ? It seems a crazy proposition and also shows that they could have stopped the flow from Turkey earlier and saved so many lives lost. None of these countries are to be trusted. They are different to us, and when it comes down to base line , we don't sing from the same hymn sheet.

Yes Casper, you are correct when saying the Imam's and leaders have still not faced up to the problem we all face. Themselves included. I suppose they can't, due to offending Allah and any backlash from within the Muslim communities. They are hiding, that is the only possible reason I can think of, which is pretty cowardly , under the circumstances. If they dare to speak up at a later date, it won't hold much water. Far too late and damaging then !

all this time and I still don't know who's the leader of Syria

Assad but we've been doing our best to get rid of him.

Europe's package deal offered to Turkey is a disgrace, its not entirely clear about Turkey's involvement with ISIS yet.

Certainly have , emailed Madders two days ago and nothing back yet, but I saw a tweet from him saying he didnt feel Cameron had made the case yet, and that he was still listening to constituents. Not 100% sure what that means . Will we find out which way they all voted?

What has the ku klux klan got to do with this topic please

Don't think we have any choice in this, wish we did. I'm no war mongerer far from it, it worries me to death what's going to happen. There's going to be another Paris like attack here soon, think the intelligence agencies are doing a great job but they won't be able to stop it all the time. Just a matter of when! Think we are better to join the allies than be on our own and just pray we get it right, we are going to be attacked whatever we do so let's try and fight this horrible organisation as one. If was a civilian in Syria I would have headed out to the hills or wherever, rather live in a cave than be in the city. Corbyn is inferring we sit down and talk with these IS , they won't do that , all they wan to do is kill and maim, always said he lives in cuckoo land.

What's to stop these Isis targets from keeping innocent civilians within their midst.I'm all for bombing their frontline? fighters

As regards foiling terrorist plots here, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were stopped by info supplied by members of the muslim community to our security services

And no I am not a terrorist sympathiser

Will we get involved against terrorists in other countries after Syria is sorted out and isis disperses to
other parts

1)Nothing ,

2) Agreed and instead of using our £125000 a pop Brimstone missiles, we could be using that money to help work with the muslim community to route out the home grown terrorists here, as well as upping our security generally. Attacking the ISIS Hydra head here would still be a contribution to the aims of our 'allies' which might also avoid being the 'cheese eating surrender monkeys'

3) Im glad!

4) Yes probably.

Listening to the debate though , its just so complicated now with dozens of groups active withing Syria, it seems obvious that killing off just ISIS definitely wont help, the rest would just fight amongst themselves and against Assad and right now Im wondering if the accusation agains Russia taking out ALL terrorists from every group would leave a void into which he could step, might even be one of the least evils . Wicked and extreme he might be , but maybe for now thats the only way there might be relative peace, taking out all the 'active' top layer of groups , leaving the rest of them all under his strict rule --- for now till the Russians actually decide to get him out. This is really headachey stuff isnt it.

So what has bombing Syria got to do with removing the threat of terrorism? If we had bombed Ireland would that have removed the threat of terrorism - no, it would have increased terrorism, the considerable reduction in terrorism from Ireland was achieved with money and negotiation.

There is more than enough money getting thrown around in military actions to get this sorted out.

Whatever we do in destroying Syria, ISIS will remain a threat as a terrorist organisation, it is impossible to wipe them out as they exist in too many countries.

Your quite right rude, so that makes alright then? two wrongs don't make a right, I am afraid that is no argument.

Hi granny, the need to bomb Syria is now becoming clear, its as I thought, General Dannat said on the news earlier basically that us joining in with the bombing wont make a difference, the main aim is to show solidarity with those already involved, Cameron pushing the "its our duty to support our allies" angle and his jingoistic speeches reek of desperation, and I have to say to imply that those who are against the bombing are terrorist sympathisers is outrageous and frankly disgraceful, Cameron along with the majority of his government have never served in the forces, I like many others who have served will feel anger at being branded because we oppose bombing, which we have a right to do by this pasty faced little sh*te and his patronising government.

How would you spend the 'more than enough' money DD , for best effect?