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I agree, we could bomb them for a hundred years and be no further ahead. It may have been said on here before but I will repeat,
The only way to defeat them is to stop their funding, mainly
from the Saudi's. Yet ironically Canada for one sells ammunition
to the Saudi's. As a side point it was pointed out on a CBC program
that ISIS lost 20000 last year but had 300000 recruits.

Wwe do not want to hurt anyones feeings on here, but they are as free as any one of us to decry Muslim terrorist behaviour , and they should if they are against it. Thats what the country needs , masses of 'proper' Muslims joining in as to how to best rid us of those who kill and maim in the name of their god .

One to many o's. Should have read 30000

That's like asking a Catholic or Protestant to stand up and apologise for Christianity being practised in the name of KKK types!!!

Not sure exactly that Ive understood you, but if you mean that for instance if I was a dedicated pure Chrisian (Im agnostic) I might not stand up and speak out against barbaric behaviour by extremist Christians to my countrymen , then you're wrong. I believe most people I know, would .

On the subject of new lawsetc following attacks

Newish film out. The Daniel Connection


THE DANIEL CONNECTION
A Chilling Apocalyptic Thriller Based on a Factual Documentary

As the world becomes embroiled in financial instability, increased natural and man made disasters and escalating terrorist attacks,
frightened citizens look to governments… a world leader… to keep them safe.

In a bid to “keep People Safe”, politicians sanction the formation of a new counter terrorist unit called the “Federal Protection Force” (FPF).
As the root cause of increased terrorism is deemed to be religion, the heads of major faiths come together and agree that ALL paths can lead to God,
and await a leader to lead the world under the simple global banner of ‘Love Good and Love your neighbour’.

When people start to go missing - coupled with increased sightings of UFOs around the world, detective Brian Farrow turns his attention to the
feisty young radio presenter Dani Makovitch as she begins to question the true purpose and origins of the
Federal Protection Force. Ancient documents hold the key as she quickly comes to realise the one burning question that needs
to be answered… can the FPF be stopped or is it already too late?


http://thedanielconnection.tv/trailer.htm

spiritwiki

Sounds like a good yarn.

Bloomin' heck, you know your history. Initially I was going to reply that I'd discount them as civil disturbances on our own land (military-wise). However it isn't that simple for Ikwhan and you may well be right. One question would have to be whether the actions were on behalf of the British Government or were our forces on loan to a foreign realm and not directly under our control - I'm not sure?

It did seem a lot, Snowshoes.
Kuwait and Qatar were also funding them. Don't know if that still applies. At the same time the Saudi King has offered to pay for 200 new mosques to be built in Germany! I understand he has been (politely) told; No Thanks !

Although they have received money from Saudi, Quatar and Kuwait in the past, mostly to oppose Assad, this has nearly dried up, most of ISIS' income now comes from oil sales, kidnap ransoms, smuggling, extortion, taxes, looting and bank robberies.

Turkey have promised to stop the oil travelling through their borders but how effective this will be is questionable, the drops in oil price have helped cause ISIS a bit of financial trouble.

Protection money for muslim businesses is quite cheap at around £2 a month, however non-muslim families have to huge amounts more than this. ISIS have put their taxes up in the last few months due to their financial squeeze.

The less money ISIS get, the more they will squeeze the innocent Syrian civilians. At some point there is a possibility that they will invade yet another bordering country, the wider spread they are, the more difficult it is to attack them and they will have fresh resources to steal to continue funding their activities.

Well, Daves new plan to defeat ISIL is a world beater, the RAF will bomb Raqqa and this will cut the head off the snake, the man is a genius, why has nobody else thought of this? oh what they have! oh well it was a good idea, the mind boggles if this is his answer, the rats have well left their funk holes and are well out of harms way, so Dave is this just an excuse to get us involved again?

I dont think I understand the full reasons why he does though? Look big to the Americans? Pressure from some of his party? -- Political gain we arent aware of ? What is overiding reason?

Its a Dave thing, he likes to think he is an important world leader and wants to play with the big kids, its an ill thought out policy, both the Russians and the French are acting in a knee jerk manner they are smarting from the vicious attacks on their peoples and are hitting back out of sheer frustration, and to be seen to be doing something, bombing is a hit and miss affair and has its limitations, you can take out buildings and weapons sites etc with pinpoint accuracy but concentrations of men are mobile, you cant hit what you cant see, the Americans learnt this in Vietnam, perhaps Dave thinks they will be sitting around the table in Raqqa playing cards in the ISIL social club waiting to meet Allah

The ISIS Main HQ was labelled on the map when the bombed Jihadi John - propaganda!