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granny #956985 2nd Aug 2015 5:13pm
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As you haven't stated which group of bankers you are talking about.

Banker's Salaries ....= institutions paid from global profits and investments.

http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/Job=Personal_Banker/Salary


Bin man salary, North West ,2 years ago from the horses mouth. Scroll down .......council tax payers

https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130516115615AAjjybF

Head Teachers salaries from the Teaching Times .....council tax payers and national tax.

http://www.teachingtimes.com/articles/heads-salaries.htm

Chief Executive Officer, Wirral Borough Council £170,000 ....council tax payers


If the high wages from the top bankers were dived amongst thousands of binmen, who would be worse off ? You would, because the tax from the highest earners would have to be accumulated from somewhere else and it wouldn't be the bin men. To do that the bin men would have to be employed by a totally private company anyway, as the additional revenue it's not likely to be injected into the Councils. So they could end up worse off.

This is getting daft and there is little logic in your question.
As you stated earlier on another post DD, it must time to put you out of your misery. laugh kissy ,kissy .




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It would be true if some idiot hadn't designed the wheelie-bin. The handle and wheels are on the wrong side for the binmen - how bloomin' awkard. Wheelie bins are almost three times the volume of the old steels (240 litre against 90 litre).

In the past the binmen didn't have repetitive contract renewals with the associated increase in "productivity" (more work, less time, less pay) and then some jumped up spotty kid doing time and motion to cap it all.


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Bloody idiots....


The History of Wheelie Bins


Historians are divided over the origins of he wheelie bin. What we do know is that fossilised fragments of a wooden wheelie bin were discovered preserved in the volcanic ruins of the city of Pompeii. However prehistoric cave paintings discovered high in the Himalayas seem to show primitive wheeled refuse transit containers being used to contain left over mammoth bones.



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I am an executive manager of a bank, that is how I manage to live a very comfortable lifestyle of my choosing with virtually no effort required
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So, a Champagne Marxist: I reluctantly respected your opinions but no longer.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
So, a Champagne Marxist: I reluctantly respected your opinions but no longer.


I'm also the owner of the same bank that I am executive manager of, the same as most people wink

An ultra right wing millionaire can be a Marxist without being hypocritical, so its ok Chris, we can still be brothers.

Marixism is an analysis not a doctrine.

I can't stand champagne.



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Are you talking generally about the relationship of types of jobs to monetary reward ? Suggesting all jobs are worthy of the same remuneration?

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Originally Posted by venice
Are you talking generally about the relationship of types of jobs to monetary reward ? Suggesting all jobs are worthy of the same remuneration?


No, equal pay wouldn't work, but the obscene differences in pay are also unjustifiable, they are the two extremes and getting more extreme year on year. We should be somewhere in the middle ground.

It is perverse that the jobs that nobody wants to do are paid the least, its a reversal of common logic, the less desirable a job is, the more the pay should be surely? Its also an abuse of the less fortunate.

In my life, the more I was paid, the less valuable my contribution was to society and to myself. I am pleased to be out of the rat race. I was embarrassed and guilty to be getting paid for what I did but I was trapped by societies' system.

Employers have got very lazy over the last 40 years, hardly any train their own workforce, they have got profit orientated and so illegal practices are going on all over the place.

When a company is found to have done something illegal, the owners and management should be held personally responsible.

It is no use fining companies huge amounts of money, its the customers that end up paying those fines, the owners and managers should be personally fined and jailed. Why should the public take on the penalties for the illegal acts of a company takes when the public have no stake in that company?

Everything is back to front, the upper echelons have worked the system in their own favour at the cost of the others. You know things are completely out of kilter when left wingers voted in quantity for what some would see as an ultra right wing party (UKIP) - this was a revolution equal in extremity to any civil war.


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"In my life, the more I was paid, the less valuable my contribution was to society and to myself. I am pleased to be out of the rat race. I was embarrassed and guilty to be getting paid for what I did but I was trapped by societies' system."

I sort of anticipated the flavour of your reply , but dammit DD - youve retired ! I was set to offer you my bank details to pass on your embarrassing surplus salary to. grin

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Originally Posted by venice

but dammit DD - you've retired ! I was set to offer you my bank details to pass on your embarrassing surplus salary to. grin


It's still worth a try, venice; he's probably got an equally embarrassing surplus pension. wink


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Yes, I must endeavour to remain selfless , I just hate to think of people feeling uncomfortable. DD-- my offer to help you out , stands ,lol . Love Venice

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Its over 10 years until I retire, I'm only in semi-retirement, I am self employed in three different fields of work.

I work as much as I need to live the life of my choosing and that lifestyle is exceedingly comfortable in my eyes, money isn't everything and most popular costly possessions hold no interest with me, I don't drink, I don't smoke (except for e-cigarettes that are dirt cheap).

Doing my rough accounts the other day, I thought I was behind after some extravagant purchases, but I'm actually ahead - I must be working far too hard wink

Joking aside, I am in a very fortunate position, I did plan ahead and despite a few major hiccups (including 5 years in poverty) my plans came together. I worked over 65-hour weeks at times because I realised that investing my time for a relatively small number of years would enable a much better lifestyle long before retirement.


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I guess I was lucky; I worked two years beyond state retirement age simply because I enjoyed my job.


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I enjoyed my job in engineering and was called a technician, then I was promoted to chair polisher in waste paper manufacturing and called an engineer?


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What's the point of manufacturing waste paper?


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