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Sorry to say, but I find this rather strange. Understanding a comparison is the purpose of the last two posts, but as we are talking about children in poverty, surely the comparisons should made against, school shoes, school uniform, books, toys ,children's clothes etc. rather than whisky, lager, cigarettes, and cars.


Maybe there are so many children in poverty now, due to the parent/s using their money for such personal, gratifying items ?

So true, Granny.

children in poverty, sorry if I'm wrong but don't you get dinners school shoes, school uniform free if your in poverty same with books?

As for toys, they can do without them as toys are Luxury items and not a need.

This is all Tongue and Cheek

Children happen to eat more than once a day, and if the money provided is being spent on cigs and beer ,it has to be questioned. Just like all the parents who get their kids diagnosed with ADHD ( extra benefits) and then give them energy drinks to go to school with.

Then there's the midwives who did home deliveries on the Woodchurch (1980's) with the husbands drunk in bed beside their wives as they gave birth. Maybe those children never had any guidance in raising children.

You think I'm joking ? Well, it's no joke and for being so cheeky Ducky, you can sit on the naughty step and wait for your someone to come and collect you.

(I do know what you were getting at, just had to raise a small issue as Grannies do )

I haven't read here any further posts arguing against the consensus that poverty in the main is a myth and that sensible budgeting is the answer to most people's problems. Protesting en-masse by those who think it's the states duty to give them a bigger slice of the cake won't change anything.
I agree wholeheartedly with Bandy Coot's observations; we both came from the same area in Birkenhead, and know what life was like back in the forties and fifties. It was an age when the newly formed welfare state was shunned by most as the answer to their problems. Wages were crap for our fathers, but no way would my dad expect anybody other than himself to provide a home for his wife and kids, no matter how hard up he was. Last year's housing benefit bill was a massive £24billion. And people still argue that the state isn't providing them with enough freebies.

But a lot of people on housing benefit are not in poverty.

Likewise there are many people in poverty that are not entitled to housing benefit.

Saying I survived xxxx therefore everyone else should be able to is meaningless and is a way to drag everyone down to the lowest level. Why not go back earlier and compare income then to now? Do we really think servitude is acceptable and not a form of poverty?

The topic is about kids in poverty - most kids have zero control over the household budget - no amount of budgeting on their part is going to get them out of poverty.

I'll also repeat again - who should get paid more, a bin man or a banker? The welfare system is a means to redistribute the common wealth from an unfair wages system, its a way a balancing the unjust, not simply a handout.