WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,469
Posts1,033,977
Members14,847
Most Online80,173
Apr 25th, 2025
Who's Online Now
6 members (2228a, 2 invisible), 27,090 guests, and 786 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,810
_Ste_ 16,347
Newest Members
han_3008, Emurphy, Rodger, raslo, Paulp83
14,847 Registered Users
New General Forums
Back To CB, Again! Yet Again!
by TheGodSplinter - 21st Apr 2025 2:29pm
Illuminated Bus WW2
by Alanbentley - 19th Apr 2025 5:11pm
Cancel Account?
by ladams888 - 30th Mar 2025 6:25pm
Last person to post wins...
by GaryB - 9th Oct 2007 9:15pm
New Wirral History
Birkett Scheme.
by bert1 - 8th May 2025 8:25am
70% houses damaged
by bert1 - 5th May 2025 3:10pm
Wartime Scouts.
by bert1 - 2nd May 2025 4:11pm
Belgium Chateau
by bert1 - 16th Apr 2025 6:55am
Bedford Park Athletic Grounds
by bert1 - 13th Apr 2025 8:34am
Top Posters(30 Days)
bert1 19
Topic Replies
Work Adjacent to West Float
by diggingdeeper - 11th May 2025 5:02pm
Birkett Scheme.
by bert1 - 11th May 2025 6:39am
ooh Top of the pops
by GaryFromWirral - 10th May 2025 10:15am
More Bins
by diggingdeeper - 8th May 2025 8:12am
70% houses damaged
by bert1 - 7th May 2025 11:31am
Wartime Scouts.
by bert1 - 4th May 2025 10:08am
Are our local councillors all insane?
by diggingdeeper - 3rd May 2025 4:22pm
My House is Haunted Series
by Longnails - 3rd May 2025 2:36pm
Physio advice please
by Longnails - 3rd May 2025 2:25pm
May
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
bert1 3
Top Likes Received
bert1 25
Mark 4
casper 4
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 14 1 2 3 4 13 14
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
My points being that there is no black or white and those who just want to take advantage.

It seems to me that breaking into a city centre building of reknown is rather like travelling folk moving into a field in hallowed countryside.

All very grey.

Google Ads
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,098
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,098
Originally Posted by Moonstar
My points being that there is no black or white and those who just want to take advantage.

It seems to me that breaking into a city centre building of reknown is rather like travelling folk moving into a field in hallowed countryside.

All very grey.
Can see this place getting wrecked and overcrowded with squatters.

Last edited by snowhite; 21st Apr 2015 12:04pm.
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,214
Forum Veteran
Online Content
Forum Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,214
The main Question should be why (must be for eventual profit)these and similar buildings are left empty for years and possibly deteriorating when there are people prepared to live in or use them.
Compulsory purchase them and get some use out of them if empty for a number of years.
a charity use, homeless folks,food bank

I'd lay odds if it was in London it would have been snapped up by now

Last edited by derekdwc; 21st Apr 2015 1:09pm.
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
It's owned by Santander and is up for sale. If someone couldn't sell their house, would we expect squatters to move in ? NO.

We seem to be getting weighed down with Activists Agendas. They are on a mission at the moment.....just a political stunt, backed by Wirral Unite !! Says it all really doesn't it ?

What is wrong with all the other charities for the homeless in Liverpool.

Whitechapel Centre,

The Basement

Liverpool's Men's Centre

Crisis Skylight

LCVS

Shelter.

Centrepoint.

Salvation Army

Red Cross etc. etc.

If someone wants to do good, and if Wirral Unite want to get involved, maybe they should contribute some of their vast wealth that sits in the bank doing nothing.
I would also be interested to know how much cash (from donations) Wirral Foodbank also has in the bank. Last I found was 2012/13 income about £23,000 outgoings £7,000.

The Bank of England building will survive, just as it did through a world war, but I doubt the homeless will survive there for too long.





Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,214
Forum Veteran
Online Content
Forum Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,214
Originally Posted by granny
It's owned by Santander (Spanish owned bank making billions in profit in UK)and is up for sale.




If someone couldn't sell their house, would we expect squatters to move in ? NO. Not if they still lived there

We seem to be getting weighed down with Activists Agendas. They are on a mission at the moment.....just a political stunt, backed by Wirral Unite !! Says it all really doesn't it ?

What is wrong with all the other charities for the homeless in Liverpool.
Doesn't the number of charities say something itself
Whitechapel Centre,

The Basement

Liverpool's Men's Centre

Crisis Skylight

LCVS

Shelter.

Centrepoint.

Salvation Army

Red Cross etc. etc.

If someone wants to do good, and if Wirral Unite want to get involved, maybe they should contribute some of their vast wealth that sits in the bank doing nothing.
I can agree with that and also with church (C of E and Catholic) - maybe they do contribute but anonymously
I would also be interested to know how much cash (from donations) Wirral Foodbank also has in the bank. Last I found was 2012/13 income about £23,000 outgoings £7,000.(You can't eat money)
Maybe they are keeping some set aside for if there are more swinging cuts due

The Bank of England building will survive, just as it did through a world war, but I doubt the homeless will survive there for too long.




Last edited by derekdwc; 21st Apr 2015 2:46pm.
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
Nice research Granny. thumbsup

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
DDWC, It doesn't make occupation of a building any more acceptable even if they have multi billions or a state pension.
Fundraising for the(Church) Charity Groups is certainly constant and ongoing on a National basis.As is the Red Cross, Crisis and the others. Anyone on here who reads this can donate to any of the charities for the homeless listed above. £5 does a lot, but most are happy to squabble about the rights and wrongs rather than putting their hands in their pockets. So we can revert the problem back to ourselves for not contributing more, for the needy.
When FoodBanks take cash donations, I would have thought that money is given in good faith to be used for the very purpose it is donated. Nobody from a charity should have carte blanche to stand it on end.
Whitechapel Centre, spend 100% of their donations on those who need it.

This latest occupation has it's wish list, but it's noted they have not asked for , anyone qualified in mental health, counselling for drug /alcohol abuse , welfare, first aiders, bereavement councillors ,and other important assistance which should be in place. When that is all there, then I shall maybe take them seriously.
These people in many cases are traumatised; musicians and magicians alone will not put it back together for them.

This is their WISH LIST.

We are issuing an urgent call out for:
- OCCUPIERS
- ACTIVISTS
- STREET KITCHENERS
- ARTISTS
- PERFORMERS
- MUSICIANS
- POLITICAL SPEAKERS from any background
- and, THE WHOLE LOCAL COMMUNITY to come down, join in and enjoy the new space.

If you are interested in using the space for anything at all,.. Be quick - we don't know how long we'll be able to hold onto the building.

As well as as many individuals as possible, we also have a Wishlist:

- barricading equipment - wood, nails, drills, anything a bit 'DIY'
- film screening equipment that can be lent (and some kind technical person to operate it!)
- STREET KITCHEN - any donations of food, blankets, any unwanted clothing for the FREE SHOP.


[img]https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/h...a3cc11a5704ac16108c0eb82&oe=55A72CCE[/img]

Last edited by granny; 21st Apr 2015 3:55pm.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Some could have been right with their thoughts of graffiti. I just wonder who the 50 homeless were last night. It looks like 'party time' as opposed to a rather more a serious gesture. Kids included as well ! Maybe they could open it up for guided tours or urban exploration ?

Can't understand why people wish to hide their identities, somewhat cowardice and two faced.

Anyway, this facebook page should keep you up to date if anyone is interested !

Click on the images, it makes them much clearer.

https://www.facebook.com/WirralUniteCommunityBranchNw96

Last edited by granny; 22nd Apr 2015 1:49pm.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490
Likes: 31
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490
Likes: 31
Its already been Urban explored numerous times, as the squatters said, the building was open without breaking in.

Squatting in a non-domestic building is not illegal, over many years the various governments have purposely chosen not to make it illegal, this may be counter-intuitive but there must be reasons.

On moral grounds it can be argued either way either that people shouldn't have the right to squat or why should people not be sheltered when a shelter is empty.

It deeply concerns me that they are asking for barricading materials and tools, a satisfactory barrier would more than likely involve damage to this very fine building.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Oh dear ! It would appear that the images of the inside of the bank building have quickly disappeared. Not to worry, if anyone wishes to see them all I have saved them . smile


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,098
Wiki Addict
Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 7,098
I would love to see them Granny thanks xx

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490
Likes: 31
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490
Likes: 31
What a load of ..., loads of graffiti everywhere. These aren't squatters, they are vandals.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Just a few to wet your appetite.



Attached Images
10357246_10206200835410407_655306990282518286_n.jpg 10653636_10206200883451608_1624716553567312490_n.jpg 11162505_10206200887771716_1331496916509765437_n.jpg 11183361_10206200891051798_4762602205559779058_n.jpg

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Oh, ok a few more....


Attached Images
7412_10206200825210152_632558367064906905_n.jpg 11149281_10206200843610612_8891320451724578786_n.jpg 11150829_10206201135257903_8459676916146169538_n.jpg 11121021_10206200914692389_3570055882655818000_n.jpg

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,810
Likes: 3
.

Attached Images
11149425_10206201141498059_6118273587336160248_n.jpg 11114284_10206201139418007_4783817209676427779_n.jpg 11162515_10206201140418032_7189506023969811518_n.jpg 11169904_10206200928932745_7993794920402945271_n.jpg

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Page 2 of 14 1 2 3 4 13 14

Moderated by  Mod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Work Adjacent to West Float
by Excoriator - 10th May 2025 6:13pm
ooh Top of the pops
by GaryFromWirral - 10th May 2025 10:15am
Birkett Scheme.
by bert1 - 8th May 2025 8:25am
70% houses damaged
by bert1 - 5th May 2025 3:10pm
My House is Haunted Series
by Longnails - 3rd May 2025 2:36pm
For Sale & Free
Member Spotlight
diggingdeeper
diggingdeeper
Wirral
Posts: 14,490
Joined: July 2008
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Work Adjacent to West Float
by Excoriator - 10th May 2025 6:13pm
Unexpected development
by Excoriator - 23rd Apr 2025 4:45pm
Lower Bebington
by Alanbentley - 16th Apr 2025 7:00pm
Fire inHamilton Square station
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2025 4:55pm
News : New Topics
Are our local councillors all insane?
by Excoriator - 20th Mar 2025 10:32am
New Ferry regeneration
by Excoriator - 16th Mar 2025 4:22pm
More Bins
by diggingdeeper - 19th Jul 2024 11:05am
New Enthusiast Forums
ooh Top of the pops
by GaryFromWirral - 10th May 2025 10:15am
My House is Haunted Series
by Longnails - 3rd May 2025 2:36pm
Physio advice please
by Longnails - 3rd May 2025 2:25pm
Popular Topics(Views)
10,346,958 CW Chat room thread
5,600,456 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,431,499 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5