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granny #942051 15th Apr 2015 3:26pm
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Flippin' 'Eck Rude, that must be the longest post ever on Wikiwirral.

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Originally Posted by HansG
I'm hoping for a Conservative/UKIP Coalition...

I think that would work quite well.

UKIP have the voice and the balls to say what they think that the Conservatives are lacking.


Personally I think this has the potential to ruin more peoples lives than any other option unless you are 100% fit for your entire working life, already own your own home, earn more than the living wage and have a very good private pension with health care. Unfortunately most people in society do not fall into this category.

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Works for me...

The problem is that unless you're very poor or very rich, the outcome is generally going to make sod all difference to you.

Hence why even though I've said the above, I don't see any point in voting.

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Watched UKIP deliver their Manifesto this am., and missed Clegg's, other than a bit of a repeat on the news channel. He seemed to be far more assertive, than he has just recently.

Suzanne Evans, who I have previously thought was a drip in a nightie, actually delivered the UKIP Manifesto proposals extremely well. I was quite impressed with some of the policies they are promoting as they appear to make sense, and they also have covered a far wider agenda than the Tories or Labour.
Still don't fancy a UKIP coalition, I think that would result in stale mate at every full stop.

One thing of importance that I either missed or was not mentioned , was employment and job creation.

DD, thanks for explaining yesterdays question.

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I am neither rich nor poor but every party sitting in No.10 has an effect on my life. A lost opportunity to vote now will mean a further 5 years of not being able to let any party know how you feel. I do empathise with your viewpoint HansG but wish you would reconsider voting even if its for the best of a bad lot. The day we get proportional representation and the ability to effectively sack an mp cannot come too soon.

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Originally Posted by GeeMeister
the ability to effectively sack an mp cannot come too soon.


I think you will find that has been included in UKIP's Manifesto, Gee.

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The core of their manifesto, still revolves around immigration, and what they are suggesting regarding that is pie in the sky unless we have a referendum, and at present only the Tories are offering that, and if that were so the outcome may be to stay in, even if we vote to leave we could still be obliged to take immigrants from the EU as part of our trading obligations, I personally don't like Farage, hail fellow well met something not right there, reminds me of being an Oswald Mosely type.

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Originally Posted by ludwigvan
Flippin' 'Eck Rude, that must be the longest post ever on Wikiwirral.


Could have just posted a link:
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or the 2013 original without added expletives :
Click Here


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Originally Posted by casper
The core of their manifesto, still revolves around immigration, and what they are suggesting regarding that is pie in the sky unless we have a referendum


Why do we need a referendum to close our borders to Europe, we didn't have one to open them! We have only been permitted to vote on the common market which foolishly we did, turning our backs on the commonwealth market and numerous other trade agreements we had with other countries.

We alienated ourselves from something that was working well to surrender ourselves to the inevitable United States of Germany.


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granny #942167 15th Apr 2015 10:42pm
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It wouldn't bother me too much if there were a hung parliament and that all MPs had all facts and figures for voting on changes and were allowed a free vote as their consciences dictated and not to toe the party lines.
A foi list of how they voted on issues would be handy for checking on how our local mps vote




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Back from a VERY interesting evening in West kirby.

A Question Time type event. McVey, Greenwood and two other non-entities were on the panel- the Kipper sent in a 'schoolboy-esque apology'.

Questions submitted and asked from the floor included the topics: better society and how it can be funded,addressing the increasing use of foodbanks, fracking....N.H.S., T.T.I.P, local energy sourcing.

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Originally Posted by ludwigvan
Flippin' 'Eck Rude, that must be the longest post ever on Wikiwirral.


Could have just posted a link:
Click Here

or the 2013 original without added expletives :
Click Here

Yes, dad. wink

derekdwc #942178 15th Apr 2015 11:26pm
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Originally Posted by derekdwc
A foi list of how they voted on issues would be handy for checking on how our local mps vote


You don't need an FOI, its available on TheyWorkForYou but I would prefer it to be provided by the Government.


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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Back from a VERY interesting evening in West kirby.

A Question Time type event. McVey, Greenwood and two other non-entities were on the panel- the Kipper sent in a 'schoolboy-esque apology'.

Questions submitted and asked from the floor included the topics: better society and how it can be funded,addressing the increasing use of foodbanks, fracking....N.H.S., T.T.I.P, local energy sourcing.
Live account: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/recap-esther-mcvey-wirral-west-9053481

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Bet Esther McVey was pleased that Nicholson hadnt come out with his claims about the NHS before that event.

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