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Gosh Bandy, you nearly got it right, its the type of thing you would expect from dictatorships, I can see the logic in your answer.

You're wasting your breath with me mate. The other thing lately is the crap that Green Party leader was putting out on the Sunday Politics show. She was advocating doing it the Cuban way with regards to wages, she didn't say that but the policy is the same as they use. The Cuban I spoke to wasn't happy with their policy but he had to live with it. If you don't like it in UK at least you can ship out, you're not forced to stay.

Why should I ship out? am I not entitled to a say in how the country is run? an alleged democracy, people vote to change things,your answer seems to be dont try to change things, put up with what we have or go, sounds a bit like this government as regards to wasting my breath was it not you who responded to my post first,and I responded as is the usual courtesy. I am sorry if you feel I have wasted my breath and your time, take care.

The "you" was just a general you not a personal you. Oh well.

There is a small but significant difference between Saudi Arabia and ISIS when it comes to beheading people. Saudi Arabia beheads convicted criminals. They have Capital punishment for Capital crimes and their preferred method is beheading (where you may recall, we used to prefer the oh-so-refined method of "hanging by the neck until dead"). ISIS on the other hand, apparently likes to behead people for "crimes" such as "being a foreign Journalist" or "being of another religion". But what the hey, if the argument serves your purpose, never mind, huh?
p.s. I am no fan of Saudi Arabia nor their punishments for various crimes; just wanted to make a salient point that many people seem to have overlooked.

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"San Miguel" the new loopy juice has a lot to answer for.
The recession effects us all,the bill has not come in yet.After the election the real recovery will have to begin, you can only borrow yourself out of it, until the butcher wants his pound of flesh.The new Greek Finance Ministers statement on channel 4 news acknowledges they can only negotiate how they pay not if.Only the poor have paid up till now and their pockets are empty, so if you think it is over and it passed you bye, think again.
Remember "The Pitchforks are Coming"

The Greeks, amongst others, fiddled their figures to get into the EU and it's come back to bite them in the arris. They all believe in stashing under the mattress and it's a duty to evade tax. Their thinking not mine.

What am i cherry picking candy boot ? My views are like this all the time.mood aside.
Maybe im seen as misanthropic and extreme even but i like to see the true underneath of stories and why things really happen.
I dont just passively accept whats told me by gov or media.
Thats why i loved george carlin.
He said once "language is used and changed to make you accept bull**it".
its funny how words are created even now in media to so called explain things...
did we even know or care pre 2001 about...
times of austerity
islamaphobia
al qeuda
london centric
were all in this together
osama bin laden
olygarts
radicalisation
war on terror
wealth polarity
quantative easing
consumer society
zero hours contracts
tax avoidance schemes
selfie culture
and so on....
watch george carlins "we like war"
"People are dumb"
"Advertising" "religion is BS"
on youtube.
such a fwd seeing man...

Is that proved in a court of law by 12 individuals?? Far trials?
They get that savage end for adultery or theft ...
A tad OTT dont you think?!

I love it when richard dawkins blows islam out the water by listening a clerics rant on peaceful loving islam then squeezes out of him,that he tries to avoid,the sentence of death for women who leave/not believe in islam. Brilliant.
Be head for that "crime"?! Again...madness.

They all believe in stashing it under the mattress and its a duty to avoid tax, sounds familiar, dont the hierachy do something like that here? or maybe I misunderstood I think they call them tax avoidence schemes, only to be used when the mattress gets lumpy or the floorboards begin to creak

Major problems with Greece included the constant rise of utility bills, as the people managed to reduce their usage and therefore costs, so the bills continued to spiral. Companies trying to reach their forecasted profits. Much the same has happened here. Greeks also still have the mind set that they are the supreme race because of the Greek Empire, history and they continue to live in the past. Just don't seem to be able to break the mould.
Even so, Germany have screwed them up by exporting to Greece more than Greece exports. I really don't know what their exports are , probably very little other than olives. Of course, when the industries were split up amongst the European Union, to even out profit and loss,at the end of the day, no one country were as self sufficient or productive as they had been, we all have to rely on each other. The more countries that join, the worst it will get..that's just my opinion. Not enough of anything to go around.
Anyone who thinks we will benefit greatly from fracking, also need to do a bit of research A) we will export, B) the energy cost will not reduce for us. It's just another resource that will ultimately be commandeered by our friends across the channel. Those who would rather not have it in their own backyard but happy reap the rewards.
Whoever leads this country for the next five years, need to be strong, forward thinking on a massive scale and not to try and show prowess by dragging us into another war at massive costs to the tax payer.
That Green Party leader is a joke Bandy, what a fool!
I do have to wonder how many of the present day politicians have been brainwashed whilst at University and had direction from the 'once, children of the sixties' who became University lecturers and who had an unscrupulous concept of politics and ideology.

Plus.... Greece has a population of only 11 million and are the gateway of Europe. Migrants are 25% of the population and illegal immigrants are 10%.According the The Economist, Greece spent €63m in 2013 to prevent illegal immigration; just €3m came from Europe’s border agencies.
Also:
German officials accused Italians of slipping refugees money so they could travel to Germany. Such episodes foster suspicion, and thus threaten to destroy a system based on trust between member state

Who can we trust in this EU quagmire ? We are all paying heavily, thus austerity is just part of the package we will continue to face.

Its a bad scene granny (as our green friends would no doubt say) the whole world is in a mess, we have been brainwashed into a state of consumerism the must have society, when we first married I went to work on a bike, stopped many times by the police, no lights, now its must have BMs, Mercedes,personalised no plates etc etc bigger and better, the bubble has got to burst our economy is living on tick, a society based on debt,tricked into emptying our pockets because some worthless celebrity or footballer has got this that or the other, even media speak encourages people, must have, the latest etc, are we so brainwashed that we believe it all? queues to buy new mobile phones argh!