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Thanks Rude for putting that up, was wondering how he was.

Cools,

As far as I know, there were no groups represented last night, just residents

It is perhaps the case that certain individuals had issues with the politicians last night & used the forum accordingly but they are not doing it as representatives of the Save Rock Ferry group.

It is also wrong, as I said on my previous post, that they represented the Green Party in any way. I have met the prospective Green Party councillor through this campaign & he has been nothing but supportive to us. However, he is not representative of us & came in an individual capacity last night. I am also certain he is not one of the individuals that you refer to. He is the gentleman who asked if we could write directly to the Secretary of State with our concerns / thoughts. Please be assured too that he did not bring any group agitators with him to the meeting.

I can also assure you that I personally have no political affiliation & indeed would welcome support from any influential source if it helps achieve a positive outcome for the site.

As I said, a strange & unfortunate meeting in many ways but I think it's important that the facts as I know them are presented correctly as we can only achieve a positive solution by working from a position of openness & trust.

I will end by once again wishing Mr Field well & a speedy recovery.

Alison

Ok thanks LT. Hope the next meeting will be better and more constructive. I realise that you must be disappointed and upset the way it turned out. Keep up the good work.

Thanks Cools - Appreciated.

We had action plans in place for the coming week including further press coverage but I will not be making any further comments in the circumstances until the situation becomes clearer.

My concern is with Mr Field right now & I trust & hope that he will soon be back in robust health.

I'm sure Frank wouldn't want his situation to slow things down.

And I wouldn't let the other idiots change your plans one iota.

Were they a developer's rent-a-crowd? There are a lot of developers and building companies working around the area at the moment, their employee's interests wouldn't necessarily tie in with yours.

A local resident here , present at all three meetings.
At the last meeting we had a screeching lady take to the stage , ranting on about something ,which for the life of me ,I cannot remember what.We also had a nice gentleman ranting on about history lessons (was he an ex RFHS pupil?).
It was about then that the local police had to take to the stage to give a verbal warning.The nice gentleman also came out with some very sordid comments as people were leaving the church.
Local residents? Good debate ? I will let you make your mind up on that.

I notice Colin Dow is saying that the police prevented anybody else talking apart from Frank Field and his buddies.

Colin is also saying that Frank was criticising the people who got Ravenswood listed. I think Colin attributed the words "small minded" to Frank's description of the listing people.

The other comments were along the lines that people had been let down on agreements that had been made at the previous meeting with regard to access to the site and other matters.

(source was two direct posts by Colin Dow, not via media interpretation).

I have also been told that Colin is saying that there were no people shouting down the meeting.

Please note: These are NOT my opinions, don't shoot the messenger.

Thanks for that DD, it's intriguing to see conflicting viewpoints over how the meeting went. We have those that say noisy confrontation took place and now one saying it didn't. If those participating can't agree how it went then how on earth can they expect to agree on anything of substance?

Who is Colin Dow? Did he really attend this last meeting because I did!! It was as I said a group of people determined to scream and shout about their gripes with Frank Field about something said on an e-mail, I think! It was hard to understand them as they shouted and ranted do much! The police stepped in to try and restore some order as one demented woman had taken over the Mike and screaming into that about God knows!! I,m not really into politics but I was interested to see if anything had been decided about RFH and as far as I was concerned these people scuppered the meeting and as I say in my opinion just wanted to verbally attack Frank Field who as everybody now knows collapsed. I,m glad to hear Mr Field is making a recovery.

(Andrew) Colin Dow was a labour councillor that got kicked out the Labour Party around 2001 for bullying other members. Colin defected to the Green Party.

Since then he has stood locally under the party "WIN Genuine Candidate", WIN standing for Wirral Independent Network, it may have affiliation to the national "Community Action Party".

He is a Green activist, whether he is a member of the Green Party at the moment I have no idea, in February he pledged to vote for the Green Party.

While he can talk sense, imho he has too many chips on his shoulders.

Colin purportedly took out his camera to photograph Frank Field when he collapsed but was asked not to.

Enough said.

Thanks DD . Did look him up and was not surprised to see he was connected to Green Party. That explains all! How disgusting of him if that happened with camera, although it doesn,t surprise me after witnessing the chaos and barracking that went on by this group of people who we don,t know who they represented.

My sister went,she told me what had happened.

There WAS shouting and confrontation at frank field.

Ok, Alison here who started the petition & also spoke at the last meeting. I hope in a controlled fashion.....

First let me say how disappointed I am that the actions of a very small number of people has allowed others to take away the focus of the campaign which was...& remains..to look for a positive solution for the site.

I think we are all consistent in saying that only 2 people shouted in this way at the meeting. Both were residents who feel passionately about the site & the lack of engagement but, unfortunately their point was lost in their delivery & ended up being counter-productive. Both of these were residents & not Green Party Activists (& yes, I do know this for a fact)

I think it's really important that the truth is told on this - I am not part of a group of activists & nor were they. Nor were the Police called: they were present at every meeting from the start.

It does now indeed appear that Mr Colin Dow has Green Party connections but, for the record, he did not shout at or abuse Mr Field during the meeting. (The meeting was video taped & confirms this fact) However, it appears (by reports yesterday) that he says he did take out his camera at the end to photograph Mr Field. This is not acceptable behaviour in my view.

Nonetheless he was there in an individual capacity & not as part of this campaign yet it appears that we are all now being targeted as 'Agitators' & 'Infiltrators' from either the Green Party, Militant or as a Trotskyist. Nothing could be further from the truth. Again for the record, I actually voted for Mr Field & Councillor Meaden at the last election.

I think it's important that the facts aren't distorted to suit a political agenda. I am just an ordinary resident who wanted (& still wants) to engage in a true consultation process to find a solution for our site. I resent being used in a political dogfight to point score & I especially resent my sincere efforts being misrepresented. This has been done to such an extent that we now have no "next stage" in place & this scares me as who knows what may be enacted without consultation? I fully intend to pursue my place on the Residents' Committee but this may now be denied me as the propaganda places me as trouble.

Please, as local residents, don't be distracted. Our concern should still be the future of the site & ensuring that we are fully involved in the consultation process - something that has so far, at best, been obstructed & at worst, denied.

Thanks for the clarity and what appears to be a concise assessment. It is too easy to pass judgement on peoples antecedence rather than current form or activity.