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Can anyone tell me anything about it? It looks quite a large collection of buildings on this 1912 map (just under the large print "MERSEY". My father was born there in 1907, it was his mother-in-law's address.

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Hi, Chris,

I'm sure we've touched on this before, don't know where on here it is,if memory serves me correctly, stables perhaps. Will look again.


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Yes Chris,

1881 census,
John Peers, Team Owner.

1911 census,
James Fryer, 62, widower,
Family members,
Ernest Kay, 6, Grandson.


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1871, John peers declares himself as a cart proprietor. Seafield House would have been able to house his carts and horses, moving forward to James Fryer, 1911 directory, he's a butcher, the building itself had 6 rooms, wondering if a bit of slaughtering and meat preparation went on in the out buildings, perhaps he had a delivery cart/horses.


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1874 map, it appears bits added on by 1912, possibly stables built.

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Thanks, Bert. James Fryer was my great grandfather. He was a butcher and cattle dealer, born in Beaconsfield. One of his daughters, Agnes Ann, was my grandmother on my father's side, she died before I was born.
I probably have asked the question before, but can't remember getting very far.
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Reported in the Huddersfield Chronicle via the London Gazette, Aug, 1886 under the heading, Bankrupts.

It also appears to probably have had a coal business run from there.

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Still trying to find when and by who Seafield House was built.

According to Tythe map information, 1831/51 It was built on land owned by Edward Francis Finch, plot 259, plot name, Sea Hay. Occupied by Thomas Higgins. Thomas Higgins 1841 address through to 1861(Directory) was Tanyard Lane, Birkenhead, his occupation, Tanner. Unable to find Seafield House prior to 1871, its likely it was built after 1861.

Edward Francis Finch appears to be a large land owner, owning many, many plots, Thomas Higgins was recorded as being the occupier of most of them, looks like Higgins was a land agent of some description.


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Interesting, Bert. I see that plot 259 is described as pasture, and since the plot was called Sea Hey I suppose it's reasonable to have called the house Seafield.
My personal interest in the house doesn't start until about 1900 but it's interesting to know the earlier stuff.


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1916, the property is still with James Fryer, Butcher.
1923, James Wm Warren, Firewood dealer,
1938, gone.

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Correction to the landowner, Edward Francis French, not Finch.


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I see that a lot of the adjoining land was owned by George Orred. He seems to have been a big landowner; he owned the land where the Tranmere Hall Estate and the Mount Estate were built.

Edit: quite a bit about the Orreds here. I think George was probably the one born in 1807.
http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-e...-gentry-of-great-britain--irel-kru.shtml

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It seems in 1855, George Orred and Edward Francis French offered a portion of the adjoining plots they owned for sale, Tithe maps, plot 258 and 259 (Seafield House Plot), eventually becoming part of Lairds.

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( I have interest in this topic for a different reason)
In an attempt to trace a road named Orred Road, which I was almost certain existed, the following popped up.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...;q=Orred%20Road%20Birkenhead&f=false

By 1843, George Orred claimed half the ownership of Tranmere and the rest was divided amongst more than 100 other owners.

http://devonshirepark.wordpress.com/site-protocol/about/

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That's interesting, Granny. In view of the amount of land owned by George Orred, I'm surprised that there isn't a road named for him.
I first came across his name when I was researching my childhood home; Tranmere Hall Estate. I lived there until I joined the R.A.F. at 19 and I watched the building of the Mount Estate nearby after the war, which was also Orred land.
Incidentally, much of the information on the page about Devonshire Park, including the bit about Orred owning half of Tranmere, are a direct quote from the book "Sidelights on Tranmere" by J.E. Allison.


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