Hi! All you knowledgable people out there, I need your help once again please. I have a map 1898 relating to the above area of North End Birkenhead and have done a lot of searching concerning Stewart Street & Tyrer Street.I notice that Stewart Street was incorporated into the building of Ilchester Square when they replaced the Dock Cottages (Queens Buildings) and to complete the scheme the New Dock Hotel stood on the corner of Tyrer Street and Stanley Road, now sadly along with the community all gone. I have an old photo showing the Dock Cottages, Stewart Street and a derelict or grassed area, between it and Tyrer Street. My question is WHAT stood on the derelict or grassed land area before Ilchester Square was built? was it houses or factories etc. The map does show a hotel stood on the Stanley Road end of the grassed area directly opposite Townsend Street in 1898, but this is NOT the New Dock Hotel. Any info or links would be very much appreciated Many Thanks Reno
The map does show a hotel stood on the Stanley Road end of the grassed area directly opposite Townsend Street in 1898, but this is NOT the New Dock Hotel. Any info or links would be very much appreciated Many Thanks Reno
I think it was the dock hotel and when it was knocked down they rebuilt the pub on the corner of stanley rd and tyrer st and renamed it the New Dock Hence the name New
So, was it firstly Dock Hotel - Dock Cottages pub demolished then a new build as New Dock Hotel - Stanley Road/Stewart St then renamed New Graving Dock Hotel Stanley Road/Stewart St then reverting back to New Dock Hotel - Stanley Road/Stewart St
ps I think I may have been the last person to have a drink and a smoke in there. When they were pulling it down I got one of the workmen to take a pic of me with a glass of whiskey (from a bottle I took along) in one hand and a ciggy in the other
From some street directories It's interesting to see the house numbers in Stewart st run consecutively and not odds one side and evens the other side [the houses on the other side from the pub must have been built after 1916]
1861 mawdsley DOCK HOTEL, (Wm. Laurence,) 8, Stanley road
Laurence Wm. New Dock Hotel, 8, Stanley road
1878 Stewart street,/ro7?t Dock cottages. 4 Wilkinson Joseph Bird, butcher 7 & 8 New Dock hotel, John Rimmer'
Rimmer John, New Dock hotel, 7 & 8 Stewart street
1902 New Dock hotel, Thomas Hpm'y Hughes
1916 numbers may be wrong New Dock Hotel, 56-57 Stewart street.
Powell, John, New Graving Dock Hotel, 5, 6 and 7 Stewa!t street
STEWART STREET (lIchester Road) 1 Wilkinson, WilIiam, baker 2 Wilson, Willialll, bricklayer 3 Brown, JollII Willial1l. dock gateman 3a Hou~hton, Fre<leriek, butcher 4 Cash, nob"lt, dairyman 6 new Graving Dock Hotel
So the old one was remamed the new dock before it was pulled down then?
Originally Posted by derekdwc
ps I think I may have been the last person to have a drink and a smoke in there. When they were pulling it down I got one of the workmen to take a pic of me with a glass of whiskey (from a bottle I took along) in one hand and a ciggy in the other
Hi! DerekDWC Thanks for your super offer of assistance. The best I would offer, as the 1898 map is a bit small, is to refere to the excellent post from Bert1 who offers a super map of the area a lot better than mine. The area I am interested in is the area shown between Stewart Street and Tyrer Steet, and what looks like a built up area of possible busines's etc. There is a bit of confusion on both maps as it shows at the corner of Stewart St, an area marked as Stanley Buildings with a building bordering Stanley Road marked as the 'New Dock Hotel' this is confusing me. Can you offer any help please. It would be most appreciated. Many Thanks Reno
I have been told that the "New Dock Hotel / Pub" was further up the road to where it was last situated.
So the map above makes sense as it would have been the old corner of Stewart Street (Which i never know existed).
Where the New Dock was finally demolished there used to be more shops on the same side but facing Tyrer Street.
That's what ive learned been told over the years.
Over the road you had lee's Tapestry over Stanley road there are pictures about, i think if you follow kinpri's link above. I'm thinking the "Dock Cottages" may have come about due to industry over the road ?? But probably more about the popularity of the docks.
Derek as already pointed out the numbering of Stewart rd. I'm not sure what year the Plan/Map I put up is. I would guess after than 1916. The 1911 Enumerators summary book shows Stewart St with the New Dock Hotel in that street, the Stanley Buildings its attached to are Stanley Rd. During the 1911 census, any industrial buildings in Stewart St opposite 1 to 8 would not have been enumerated had they been unoccupied on the night of the census. However, any buildings there, industrial or private, should show in a directory.
Note below, Graving Dock Hotel, Beaufort Rd.
Last edited by bert1; 18th Nov 201312:38pm.
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Enlarged pic Where NEW DOCK text is on MAP is where it was originally built .The pic is where it was rebuilt further along towards St James church Is the area you're interested in the land with no buildings on the other side of Stewart st?
