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#825479 - 17th Sep 2013 8:19pm More Council Cuts
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"A further 100,000 will come from introducing car parking charges at Fort Perch Rock, Royden Park, Wirral Country Park, Arrowe Country Park and Eastham Country Park."

The Globe reports on more Council cuts.
http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/106777...Council/?ref=mr

They have driven the locals away during the summer months from New Brighton and now a pot-shot at the tourist trade.

I don't know about the other car parking sites but no doubt some of you will.

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#825488 - 17th Sep 2013 8:42pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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I know they have to save money somewhere, but I am SO not impressed by that suggestion. Wirral, The Leisure Peninsula? Hah!

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#825497 - 17th Sep 2013 9:10pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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Just when New Brighton was starting to get a busier, they now want to kill it with the ludicrous parking charges they have around the rest the Wirral, which is killing business in the town centre of Birkenhead and Liscard,we now have the New Birkenhead, the Croft centre in Bromborough, why because it's free parking,tomorrow I will be shopping in swinging Widnes why, because it's free parking, the place is buzzing and the shopping from the market to M&S is excellent,Labour Wirral the place to come and sleep.

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#825498 - 17th Sep 2013 9:14pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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Going to have to pay to go to parks that they are not going to cut the grass at (except the footy ptches)
Just been sent the full list of current suggestions.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RLCNJDF

If they can make nearly 30 million pound savings each year for 3 years its just shows how much weve been riipeed off by them previously.

Indirectly its just to pay for our global wars

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#825499 - 17th Sep 2013 9:17pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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instead of moaning about all of this we should actually do something about it!its redicolous that we should even put up with this idea!i was under the impression that when the go ahead was given to all the plans at new brighton it was put forward what a great place new brighton would be with so much to do with the BONUS of free parking!!

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#825500 - 17th Sep 2013 9:21pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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Central Govt making the Cuts - barely started - coupled with a out of touch, wasteful Council .....

Was it 100K they have just spent to learn that food sold at leisure centres is shit? i could have told them that FREE

Dereks right.. get stockpiling
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#825502 - 17th Sep 2013 9:25pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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It seems to me that the council just ignore the residents and do their own thing including fully paid for trips to China its absolutely ludicrous, why do they need to go to China when council employees and people in need of care are penalised through lack of funds ..................

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#825506 - 17th Sep 2013 9:33pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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All feeding at the trough... Met with several councillors yesterday. Walter in particular would have been hilarious if the topic wasn't so grim
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#825521 - 17th Sep 2013 10:19pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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[quote=Moonstar]"A further 100,000 will come from introducing car parking charges at Fort Perch Rock, Royden Park, Wirral Country Park, Arrowe Country Park and Eastham Country Park."

This is in the latest "Have your say on the future
of Wirral Council services" survey which I received by email today. It really does defy belief that consideration should even be given to proposals to charge for parking at the places mentioned.I hope that many people will let the council know what they really think of this and other proposals contained in the survey.

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#825529 - 17th Sep 2013 10:34pm Re: More Council Cuts [Re: fish5133]
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Originally Posted By: fish5133
Going to have to pay to go to parks that they are not going to cut the grass at (except the footy ptches)
Just been sent the full list of current suggestions.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RLCNJDF

If they can make nearly 30 million pound savings each year for 3 years its just shows how much weve been riipeed off by them


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#825547 - 18th Sep 2013 12:09am Re: More Council Cuts [Re: granny]
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Registered: 20th Mar 2010
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Loc: Wirral
They're working with Cheshire West to create savings, yet Cheshire West have just announced 15m to be spent on a leisure project in Ellesmere Port.

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/106799...Ellesmere_Port/

I wonder how much of the Wirral residents council tax will be used to fund this scheme?

This council seems to take money from its residents pockets and either spend it for their own personal gain or on projects away from the Wirral.


Edited by DaveWez (18th Sep 2013 12:18am)

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#825557 - 18th Sep 2013 7:43am Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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Registered: 19th Aug 2013
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Charging people to park in outdoor spaces will result in major problems for residents nearby plus it will cost more to monitor than receipts.

It will deter people from visiting places that need tourism.
Much more economic to put council tax up.

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#825586 - 18th Sep 2013 10:04am Re: More Council Cuts [Re: ]
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This money they have lent to other Councils at an appalling low rate - why aren't they using it in Wirral?

The work of the Council is now so complicated that you would need a degree in the subject to understand how it all works. In my lifetime, councillors worked on behalf of the community for expenses only and came from, most often, successful business backgrounds.

Far too much legislation results in procedures that, in effect, toss our money down the drain instead of producing something useful.

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#825595 - 18th Sep 2013 11:30am Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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I use most of the above locations to walk the dog nearly every day. I wont be visiting these locations if I need to pay to park, there are plently more places to go.

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#825596 - 18th Sep 2013 11:30am Re: More Council Cuts [Re: Moonstar]
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Originally Posted By: Moonstar
This money they have lent to other Councils at an appalling low rate - why aren't they using it in Wirral?

The work of the Council is now so complicated that you would need a degree in the subject to understand how it all works. In my lifetime, councillors worked on behalf of the community for expenses only and came from, most often, successful business backgrounds.

Far too much legislation results in procedures that, in effect, toss our money down the drain instead of producing something useful.


Make no mistake, there are many with degrees, working within the council. Another little scheme, thought up by the labour government.Those with years of experience were sort of, disposed of, to create space for all those new graduates. Two bit kids, on much higher salaries, which enabled them to pay back the student loans which they all had, and to help protect the financial services who lent the money, from going bust. Once in they got another degree on 'bad practice'.There was probably a high degree on nepotism in the council at one time too.Which would indicate that people did not necessarily have the skills needed to to the job properly and errors would be covered up. A bit like a secret service .Banks would never all ow relatives to work in the same branch, that was husband/wife,brother/sister,fiances, etc. for security and collusion reasons.
The councillors are quite often something else. Half of them don't know their arse from their elbow, have little knowledge of what goes on in their own backyard.Get voted in on the pretence that they got a hole filled in down Merry Lane, and yellow lines re-painted along Suckers Way. Some think they have something to offer and should be looked up to because they attend meetings. Ha! More man hours lost in 'meetings'than conclussions gained, according to time and motions studies.
Wirral is not a tourist destination now. It's a cul-de-sac with nowhere to go. Who would go to Birkenhead for a day out? Who would go to Seacombe for a day out? Masses of money poured into the terminals for Liverpool visitors to explore...Visitors would probably rather stay in Liverpool, it looks a bit more appetizing. The council don't think about their own ,what they hope to do is probably, get money poured into Wirral from funding for next years golf. Make the most out of those who want to visit and have no choice but to pay, crucify the people who make an effort to support any events that might be left to attend, then they'll wonder for example, why the ticket sales for the Floral Pavilion have plummeted and the Fort (after doing amazing things to keep itself going,over the years) has got to close. Back to the beginning again! clap


Edited by granny (18th Sep 2013 11:38am)
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