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In Bootle, Merseyside this week, hundreds of people – many of them tenants and claimants who will be hit by the tax – held a furious demonstration.
http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/dont-trust-labour-on-the-bedroom-tax/#comments


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What is it going to take to make people realise that the state doesn't owe them a living? (And yes, I get a state handout myself). The point is, somebody's got to pay for it all and at present the country's tax income is low. When the economy improves, so will the tax income: until then, we have a problem. One of the reasons we need more one and two bedroom houses is the number of marriage/partnership breakdowns and for every one, where previously one large house was needed, now two small ones are. I don't know what the answer is but I don't believe demonstrations are.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
What is it going to take to make people realise that the state doesn't owe them a living? (And yes, I get a state handout myself).

Nobody here is saying it does, Chris.

The point is, somebody's got to pay for it all and at present the country's tax income is low.


Two thirds of people affected by the under-occupancy penalty/ bedroom tax are disabled. Out of the remaining third, 90% reciece SOME Housing Benefit due to low wages, under- employment, part- time work, extortionate landlord rents etc etc

When the economy improves, so will the tax income: until then, we have a problem.

Yes, we do. Note the top 10% of earners are sitting pretty. How is the economy going to improve when low earners/ sick/ disabled/unemployed have £14- £25 less per week to spend in the economy.

One of the reasons we need more one and two bedroom houses is the number of marriage/partnership breakdowns and for every one, where previously one large house was needed, now two small ones are.

Interesting theory- perhaps due to financial stress?

I don't know what the answer is but I don't believe demonstrations are.

Peaceful demos are better than all out rioting. What else can angry people do?

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http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/tenancies/children-launch-legal-challenge-to-‘bedroom-tax’/6525992.article

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Wish people would stop calling it a tax; it's a benefit reduction.


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I was invited to attend a meeting last night, Committee members of tenant community groups had Collectively called it and requested WPH to attend, there was also several other wph tenants there as well, other tenants myself included mentioned the 50-69sqft size bedroom challange to the manager from WPH.

He stated that WPH had taken legal advice and that the 50-6sqft only applies to overcrowding, we all mentioned the 1985 housing act, to no avail, he kept insisting it only applies for overcrowding, I asked him how can the 1985 housing act state it is to small a room and the law would would only apply if I was overcrowded , but the same room would be a suitable size, because I am classed as under-occupied, what a load of bollicks, WPH must think us tenants are stupid, anyway, I am going to request to see a copy of the legal advice they got.
I also asked if they were going to follow in knowsleys footsteps and reclassify, the answer was no, i did not expect any other response from them, but it was worth a try

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Interesting debate on Radio 2 on this yesterday...

Would have had some of you seething.


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That was yesterday Rotty. Went well.

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Originally Posted by chriskay
Wish people would stop calling it a tax; it's a benefit reduction.


As this 'benefit reduction' does not pertain to you why not give the people who are going to have to suffer the consequences of it a break and stop commenting on the thread if it bothers you so much what people are calling it?

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