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Tony Benn for President! He may be almost 87 but he's got more integrity in his little finger than most of the ... that infests Parliament. Or if not, how about David Attenborough? A highly intelligent and ethical man.
Sorry, a bit off topic there.
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If you follow that logic, then they never will. I've voted Green in the past because they had the best candidate and many of her policies were very good. The first past the post system isn't the best but it's the one we're stuck with for the moment.
Fair enough, if none of the candidates have decent policies, then don't vote for them. However, if you agree with their platform, then vote for them regardless of whether you think they'll win or not. Anything else, in my humble opinion, is abdicating your repsonsibilities. It was an example. I don't know anything abut the green party except they never get lots of votes. Pick any other party that only gets thousands of votes when the total number of voters is in the millions. The only party I would vote for (and I refuse to consider voting a 'duty') would be the Pirate Party because that's the only party that represents interests I care about. And they don't have a representative in our area. Well if you don't know anything about the Green Party, how do you know they don't represent some of your interests. Collectively, us British are far too apathetic. It seems that as long as we have Sky Sports and a pint of beer, then we don't really care what the scumbags in power do.
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Tony Benn for President! He may be almost 87 but he's got more integrity in his little finger than most of the ... that infests Parliament. He's the left wing guy that wanted to scrap private education but sent his kids to private school and was a product of the private education system himself. Apart from that he's pretty sound.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Well he's better than the muppets you keep banging on about. UKIP are a big bunch of rogues and looney tunes. They have no concern for the working class in this country. Indeed, they support policies that will further screw ordinary people.
And if you want to talk about hypocrisy, UKIP support privatisation which has led to most of our infrastructure being in foreign hands. "Yeah, lets bash the Germans but secretly flog them our power companies. Too many bloody Indians coming over here but they can have our steel and car companies for a few quid!"
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Tony Benn? Champagne Socialist, comes from a privileged background and being a politician is better than working. If I remember rightly he objected to a public footpath passing his place on the coast, plebs might have been able to see him. If it wasn't him it was another high profile Labour/Socialist MP. Integrity? He's a politician for goodness sake.
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Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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I believe our current head of state, Lizzie Windsor, comes from an even more priveliged background than Tony Benn.
You may not like Tony Benn, that's your perogative. But if he was standing for President you would have the choice not to vote for him at the ballot box. Nobody had the chance to vote for or against Windsor.
If you want a politician with strong integrity, then Dennis Skinner is a good candidate.
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You're wasting your time with me on this one T. 50 years, give or take, working for the Crown. Not even going to argue over it.
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I think a lot of Republicans [myself included] are pinning their hopes on Charley Boy ascending the throne and messing it up! I think quite a few Royalists are also concerned about this too, hence the desire to skip a generation and go straight William and Kate.
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La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.......
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La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la....... A thought-provoking point. 
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Ah, but if I told you what I thought you would fall out with me. 
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Spit it out Bandy, arguing is the entire point of forums and topics like this. It's what keeps the thread going.
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Hear, hear! I love a good debate on the Monarchy. As long as it doesn't involve members threatening to kill each other, then no topic should be off limits.
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T, never shirked an objective argument but sooner or later someone nips in and it gets nasty and personal so I just keep it general now, the light touch. Suffice to say I don't mind the Royals but opportunistic politicians (which is what politics is really all about) give me the screaming abdabs. Watching the politics every Sunday morning and it can be maddening listening to some of the shoit they come out with, but without watching it I can't form an opinion. I watch everything and read everything and still end up totally befuddled, that might be my advancing years though.
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Good god touchstone, I wouldn't want ukip to get in power. I just want them to get a substantial vote so that the message that I don't want to be part of the EEC gets across.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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