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New political group aims to make Wirral independent and legalise drugs and prostitution


A NEW political group aims to make Wirral independent from the rest of the UK if it can get elected.

The Wirral First political organisation has even been praised by a senior member of the influential think-tank the Adam Smith Institute.

The group aims to put up around five candidates in the forthcoming local elections in May and has a raft of controversial policies ranging from legalisation of prostitution and drugs to a private healthcare system.

However a spokesman said the group’s members believe low corporation tax to attract businesses to the borough and lower council taxes will be key to them gaining support.

The party hopes to take advantage of the lack of outright control of Wirral Council by any of the major parties with just a handful of candidates in this year’s local elections.

Wirral council is currently led by the Conservative group, with the support of the Liberal Democrats, after a recent vote of no confidence in Labour who had operated a minority administration since last year. Although Labour are the largest group they only have 30 of the 66 council seats.

Wirral First spokesman Ken Ferguson said: “Because the council is so balanced it would not take more than a few seats to have a lever on power.”

The group aims in the short term to contest the seats by saying they would “outsource all functions and make the council as small an entity as possible”.

He added: “In the longer term we hope to make the peninsula of Wirral an autonomous, self governing region within the United Kingdom featuring minimal taxation and maximum enterprise.”

Sam Bowman, head of research at the Adam Smith Institute, wrote on the thinktank’s blog that he was “not sure the Wirral will ever manage to achieve any of this” but added: “Why shouldn't it?”

Describing Wirral First as a “fantastic group – with at least one member” he argues that “new technology is rendering the nation-state obsolete and this will be the century of the city-state”.

Wirral First says should it gain power it aims to make Wirral a low tax haven for companies which could create a Hong Kong-style economy.

Mr Ferguson said what Peel are planning with their £4.5bn plan for Wirral Waters “fits in with our concept”.

He said: “We should be trying to attract more big companies to Wirral and lower corporation tax would be very attractive to them.”

Although small political groups and independent candidates have usually not fared well in many elections in Wirral the group is optimistic of its chances.

Mr Ferguson said: “We think we have got a lot of people interested, particularly in west Wirral, who are like-minded.

THE LIVERPOOL ECHO

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If they take the Wirral out of Europe they'd get my vote.


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Controversial it is .. but it may just work I like the legalize drugs part` it will put the dealers out of business and keep the rest of them monitored and out of our homes and out of trouble,lets face it drugs are to blame for the majority of theft not to mention the trauma there off spring are witness to growing up,ive seen it .. not nice,
could be a good debate this yes

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Originally Posted by Vanmanone
could be a good debate this yes


It could be but it'd turn into 'won't somebody think of the children' faster than you could say .. oh wait nvm, too late smile


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They seem like a bunch a right-wing UKIP nutters. The proposals on drug and prostitution legalisation mark them out as a little more interesting though than the usual blue-rinse muppets.

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Prostitution isn't illegal in the UK so it shows how much you can trust their knowledge.

I'd love to see them to produce a full council budget of their plans, until they do, its just waffle.


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It may not be illegal but it is effectively criminalised. Due to this, a lot of very nasty people make quite a bit of money out of other people's misery.

As for the "outsourcing of all council services", well that's just the usual Tory neo-liberal dogma that got us in the crap in the first place.

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Maybe they could have their agenda to include Wirral's own currency, as Bristol have done, to help the local traders. Although,I dare say it wouldn't be acceptable in all the supermaret chains. That could be a bonus for them!



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Its not criminalised at all. A prostitute is even allowed to advertise her prices in her window a newspaper or online.


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I know that, but many of the related activites are illegal. For example owning or managing a brothel. Whatever the legal status of the "industry" at present, major changes have to be made to it. There is far too large a criminal element to it, most of it [all?] is untaxed and many of the ladies [and some men] working in unhealthy and dangerous conditions. Prostitution is never going to go away so we may aswell regualate it far better. The same goes for illegal narcotics.

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Originally Posted by granny
Maybe they could have their agenda to include Wirral's own currency, as Bristol have done, to help the local traders.


That's an interesting idea, gran. I hadn't heard of the Bristol scheme before. It'll be interesting to see how much support they receive.

Bet they have their fair share of knockers though...

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If they can't regulate things as they are, they ain't going to be able to regulate just by changing the rules unless it becomes totally unregulated.

Ray Mallen would have got round to it, but of course its not in the Police's own interest to end up with 90% of crime being wiped out.


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If they get praised by a think tank then they don't need anyone to vote for them let them get the think tank to vote for them because I won't.

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