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#674504 - 9th Mar 2012 3:16pm Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested
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Wallasey School Headteacher

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#674507 - 9th Mar 2012 3:24pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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I always find it sad that they release stories like this without proof of the persons guilt.

Even if he's innocent he isn't going to be working as a teacher again with his name connected to something like this.
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#674510 - 9th Mar 2012 3:28pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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Agreed

fair enough if its true let it out in the open but if not then he whole career is ruined.

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#674536 - 9th Mar 2012 5:06pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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Totally disgusted that they have reported this and pictured him, i hope it is not true have 2 kids in this school and met him a few times and he is a nice person, but they shouldnt name and shame until it is proven.

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#674539 - 9th Mar 2012 5:17pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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I agree with you on your post ex0__. Innocent until............?? Mmmmmm.

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#674551 - 9th Mar 2012 5:46pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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Absolutely agree.....he shouldn't be named until proven guilty.

There was the similar case with the Wallasey Gym instructor last year, big photo on the front page of the Echo, he even made the national papers.

He's since been cleared of all charges, but I didn't notice a big front page on the Echo saying this.

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#674556 - 9th Mar 2012 6:03pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: NJC1971]
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It really is terribly wrong that stories and pictures of people in such situations are released at such an early stage and even if he is proven innocent (hopefully so) he will be tarnished forever.Same applies in rape cases, when the male is invariably named even if it is later proven that he is innocent even odd times when women have just made it up.Those sort of women help nobody at all.

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#674559 - 9th Mar 2012 6:13pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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People in such positions (of control over minor children) need to be snow-white and completely unimpeachable. No way he should even have got himself into the position of ever even being suspected of something like this.
It simply can't remain secret given the gravity of the allegations - even if it were suspicion of theft, or murder, or any other felonious crime, it would be no different. "Arrested on suspicion of" anything, it is all done in the public domain, is it not? Why should this be any different?

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#674563 - 9th Mar 2012 6:23pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: CVCVCV]
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This isn't the US. The papers (usually) do not name and shame for 'suspicion of' stories in this country.
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#674593 - 9th Mar 2012 8:00pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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Oh yes they do. They DO publish when someone has been arrested 'on suspicion of' and the person has not yet been formally charged. This is more 'usual' than the reverse in my estimation.
Just 2 recent examples:

Liverpool FC's Stewart Downing.. .. arrested on suspicion of assault
Nine people arrested on suspicion of ticket touting (all were named).


Edited by CVCVCV (9th Mar 2012 8:03pm)
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#674594 - 9th Mar 2012 8:01pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: CVCVCV]
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Originally Posted By: CVCVCV
People in such positions (of control over minor children) need to be snow-white and completely unimpeachable. No way he should even have got himself into the position of ever even being suspected of something like this.
It simply can't remain secret given the gravity of the allegations - even if it were suspicion of theft, or murder, or any other felonious crime, it would be no different. "Arrested on suspicion of" anything, it is all done in the public domain, is it not? Why should this be any different?


The only important thing is if he's innocent or guilty. That will be decided in a court of law. Whether you, me or a tabloid rag suspect him is totally irrelevant. His name should be kept out of the public domain and only revealed if found guilty.

Personally, I believe all people charged with a crime should be anonymous till found guilty. It's ridiculous that your name, age and address can be revealed in the media.

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#674601 - 9th Mar 2012 8:13pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Touchstone]
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Not at all this is embodied in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. There are also issues concerning the Public's right to know. We do have the right to know if someone has been arrested and to know for what they have been arrested. This by the by, rather helps to stop people simply disappearing, never to be seen or heard from again, like frequently happens in various totalitarian states.


Edited by CVCVCV (9th Mar 2012 8:14pm)
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#674662 - 10th Mar 2012 6:58am Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: Ocanisak]
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fkin hell Hughesy!! He was a legend, was the third ranking Deputy Head when I was there, behind Theetan and Beacher, whenever I'd get sent to a DH or Headmaster for misbehaving (very rare ya'd get sent to Hughes) or even rehab lol, I'd go to him, he was really lenient with ya, would discuss the trouble and why you'd done whatever you'd been sent for, instead of just telling you off for it. Made a lot of sense looking back at it. Usually got the receptionist to make you a cup of tea and biscuits lol.

Don't believe he would ever have done anything to an actual child, and hope they find these allegations to be untrue, fantastic teacher/mentor during the time I was there.

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#675126 - 11th Mar 2012 7:24pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: CVCVCV]
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Originally Posted By: CVCVCV
Not at all this is embodied in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. There are also issues concerning the Public's right to know. We do have the right to know if someone has been arrested and to know for what they have been arrested. This by the by, rather helps to stop people simply disappearing, never to be seen or heard from again, like frequently happens in various totalitarian states.


what are you on about
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#675136 - 11th Mar 2012 7:50pm Re: Wallasey School deputy headteacher arrested [Re: dave_h]
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Originally Posted By: dave_h
Originally Posted By: CVCVCV
Not at all this is embodied in freedom of speech and freedom of the press. There are also issues concerning the Public's right to know. We do have the right to know if someone has been arrested and to know for what they have been arrested. This by the by, rather helps to stop people simply disappearing, never to be seen or heard from again, like frequently happens in various totalitarian states.


what are you on about


Habeas corpus.
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