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as I said "I give up"

And yet you carry on, somewhat negates your 'I give up'

Sorry for

We could get rid of the internet aswell. That would stop on-line shopping and force people back to the high street. Its happened in all corners of life, BT no longer have the monopoly on phone lines, british gas with gas supply, manweb with electricity....... Whoever piles it high and sells it cheap wins....... shame the butcher in greasby didnt think about it 20 years ago

the greasby massive lol

Thanks Greenwood for keeping us updated, much appreciated.

What about air travel, the television, the radio, how about the wheel?

Progress is going forward, no nuts are going to stop it!
I apologised for the 'off topic' you are redundant!

It's not really needed, is it?

On the opposite side of the road there's a co-op, fruit shop, hairdressers, general store, chippy, post office and a butchers.

Sainsbury's would undermine some of them, in my opinion.

West Kirby recently lost its fishmonger, there's a note on the door from the owner saying he couldn't sustain his business in the current economic climate.

It's not the supermarkets that cause the demise of the local corner shop, it's the people who shop there. Tragically the UK is becoming the USA in the way it shops, the town centres here are a haven of old pawn shops, stores selling cheap tat and tattoo parlours (well that's the ones remaining open, the rest are boarded up)
Sprawling acres of massive hypermarkets built with corrugated steel and plastic, shoot up in weeks to the delight of the locals who all pile in to their massive SUV's in order to spend hours wandering aimlessly (their oversized bulk clad in too tight lycra cycle shorts and tee shirts) through the 20 foot high aisles. Ten years later, when it's no longer a novelty, it's looking shabby and littered and no-one shops there anymore, it gets torn down in order to produce yet another brand new shiny sprawling mall with the exact same shops no more than two miles away.
I like to think of little towns and villages staying traditional but sadly it's not what people want, or rather, people do want them to remain but are not prepared to pay just a bit extra for their goods to keep them in business
I do hope though, that Sainsburys don't get their way but I feel like someone mentioned earlier, it will happen due to many palms being generously greased

Now that is sad

I'm with peanuts to a certain degree. Yes we do use the supermakets for what is not available locally,but we here have a corner shop 3 mins walk which opens at 6am and closes at 10pm everyday of the week. We can get most things there apart from fresh food and buisness is booming. The same people have a shop in Greasby and also the little eating place Ellies. Sainburys at Upton is less than 2 miles away. Asda is closer and Tesco in the other direction also a couple of miles. In between we now have a smaller Tesco on Pensby road and a new Sainsbury at the old Network Q garage on Pensby Road. Apart from the increase in conjestion and new traffic lights and crossings etc.there is absoutely no need for them. There are a variety of shops along Pensby Road and I spend so much less when I use the local shops paticularly fruit & veg shops. By less I mean about £15 less on a weekend shop if I stay out of the supermarkets. If we forget the old faithfuls and rush to all these new supermarket outlets, I believe we are about to slit our own throats.I suppose it's ok if you don't live too close to one but for those who do their whole life must change to neon lights and cars coming and going every couple of seconds. I've said too much but it's not easy to dilute.

Agreed ... But times are hard and again the majority always Win don't they` on the other hand if supermarkets were denied planning throughout the UK how would you feel about that.
I wouldn't worry to much about the Fish Mongers thou`, he`s prolly selling from the back of his van and would be financially better off

It was Kirkgate Market in Leeds, nothing to do with Birkenhead Market.

One word "Greed" that's all I wil say

ASE71 commented:
You seem to be living in the 90's. All this going to the butcher then the grocer then the fishmonger, its all gone forever..... we go to Tesco, asda, sainsburys and get it all in one place. By objecting to this development your'e not saving the small businesses because they have all gone, its too late. The Supermarkets are too powerful now.

Am happy to confirm I'm living in 2012. Point is, it's NOT too late - yet; not in Greasby. The shops there are doing well, but won't be if Sainsburys arrives.

Given the choice, I'd much prefer to do the whole butcher, grocer, fishmonger, baker thing than supermarkets. I still do occassionally, mainly because I can't find the type/cuts of meat I want in supermarkets. It's a pain having to go so far for what I want, but then the end result is well worth it!

I'd much rather go to the Farmers' Markets and pay that bit extra, knowing it's better quality. I got a leg of lamb for New Year from Tesco and it was rancid when we unwrapped it - it had been stored correctly and was withing date! I got a full refund, but it meant that we had to try and find something else for dinner. At least if I get meat from a butcher or farmer, he can tell me how fresh it is, that doesn't happen with supermarkets.

As for the pubs shutting at 3pm comment - I'd much rather go back to the old opening hours. It might stop so many pished knobends causing trouble and make going for a drink a pleasant experience again.