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I think the whole country should stick together and just close the country down for the day just like the french do because they always get what they want They wouldnt tolerate our fuel prices so a day off less fuel bought less tax to pay

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Originally Posted by workinclasshero
french do because they always get what they want They wouldnt tolerate our fuel prices so a day off less fuel bought less tax to pay
Agreed; They have got there priorities right` for sure wink

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Can I just make clear that public sector workers pay tax too!
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...My employer pays 3% of my salary into my pension, I've heard that the government ( us ) pay 14% for the teachers, who are already on a whole more than I am...

Many private sector pensions don't get a top-up (although this will change next year, when all employers be compelled to pay 3% minimum to any defined contribution pension plan). Also, unless you are a teacher in the private sector, the wage comparison is unfair.

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OMG! whine whine whine.

You all wanna try doing my job, then you would have something to moan about!

I hope you ALL get sacked! mad


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We need the unions and this strike means that the people of this country are fed up getting rip off by the Goverment.The tories and Labour and other party are bad as each up.

If the dockers whould have got the backing from the transport union back in the 90s Maybe we would not have got this strike tomorrow..

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The Kingsway Tunnel will be open at 0.15am on Thursday 1st Dec so if you don't want to go home via Runcorn Bridge you could stay in the pub or a friend's until the midnight hour and then go frown

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Originally Posted by paxvobiscum
The Kingsway Tunnel will be open at 0.15am on Thursday 1st Dec so if you don't want to go home via Runcorn Bridge you could stay in the pub or a friend's until the midnight hour and then go frown

I travel to Northwich for work everyday and the M56 diversion for the tunnel traffic looks like it's signposted all the way to J9 with the M6, probably trying to avoid congestion through Runcorn and Warrington, long way round that though!

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OMG! whine whine whine.

You all wanna try doing my job, then you would have something to moan about!

I hope you ALL get sacked! mad


Difficult to imagine your job is more difficult or stressful than a nurse, firefighter, teacher, paramedic, immigration officer etc. My own job isn't especially difficult or stressful but many of those affected by the pensions changes are.

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The government should pay this, the government should pay that. The government doesn't pay anything: you do, or rather if you are a worker of any description you do. Once you start from this premise then you look at things a bit differently. I'm on a public sector pension and I'm not complaining. If I want steak then I buy steak, if I want a beer then I have a beer etc. My only beef is that I'm taxed on it and when my State Pension gets increased then my tax goes up so I get nowt extra. I don't get Pension Credits, Council Tax Credits, so I get bombed for the full whack whatever I go for. I get charged at the dentist which winds me up a bit because it was my service that ruined my choppers. Overall though everything is pretty good so they are striking for nothing. I'm at the lower end of the pension scale by the way not on the fat cat, gold plated thing, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea. I've always been happy with just enough and still am.


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Originally Posted by workinclasshero
I think the whole country should stick together and just close the country down for the day just like the french do because they always get what they want They wouldnt tolerate our fuel prices so a day off less fuel bought less tax to pay

Not really possible to do that is it? Do you honestly think we could have one day where there were no Police, Paramedics, Firemen/women, Nurses, Doctors etc? If that happened, there would be thousands of people up in arms calling for compensation or people to be sacked.

I don't really think you can put people's lives at risk like that.


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Originally Posted by workinclasshero
I think the whole country should stick together and just close the country down for the day just like the french do because they always get what they want They wouldnt tolerate our fuel prices so a day off less fuel bought less tax to pay

Not really possible to do that is it? Do you honestly think we could have one day where there were no Police, Paramedics, Firemen/women, Nurses, Doctors etc? If that happened, there would be thousands of people up in arms calling for compensation or people to be sacked.

I don't really think you can put people's lives at risk like that.


sounds like they are not thinking about other people, i still totally disagree with striking, wehrn the country is in a bad state, its not going to give people more confidence when people are going out and refusing for work. maybe it may have good intentions, but a more thought out solution may have been the better option.

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sounds like they are not thinking about other people, i still totally disagree with striking, wehrn the country is in a bad state, its not going to give people more confidence when people are going out and refusing for work. maybe it may have good intentions, but a more thought out solution may have been the better option.
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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
The government should pay this, the government should pay that. The government doesn't pay anything: you do, or rather if you are a worker of any description you do. Once you start from this premise then you look at things a bit differently. I'm on a public sector pension and I'm not complaining. If I want steak then I buy steak, if I want a beer then I have a beer etc. My only beef is that I'm taxed on it and when my State Pension gets increased then my tax goes up so I get nowt extra. I don't get Pension Credits, Council Tax Credits, so I get bombed for the full whack whatever I go for. I get charged at the dentist which winds me up a bit because it was my service that ruined my choppers. Overall though everything is pretty good so they are striking for nothing. I'm at the lower end of the pension scale by the way not on the fat cat, gold plated thing, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea. I've always been happy with just enough and still am.


Most of the people on strike aren't on gold plated pensions either. I'm certainly not. There are some overpaid, underworked senior managers in the public sector, I wont deny that. Although even that pales into relative insignificance when compared with the private sector. Maybe some of the working-class Tories on this thread might want to train their fire on the super rich who don't even pay their taxes. Just a thought!

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