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While I understand and agree with the arguments against vigilantism, Birkenhead seemed to be a better place when locals used to sort out trouble makers or sometimes justice was dished out in the back of a police van.

Sometime around the Dianne Syndal time there seemed to be a marked change of Birkenhead's character - possibly a mixture of that type of crime and the predominance of heavy drugs.

Hi DD totally agree with you ,some times these things are better sorted between local`s and scally`s i does take the power away from them knowing people won`t put up with it I also remember the time Dianne Sindall got murdered ,that was too close to home for me ,

We've been back in the town now for 16 months after being away for 35 years (you have to go where the work is) and we are thoroughly loving being back here. Just been away for 3 days and was glad to get back. I'm sure Birkenhead can pull through again, most of the folks are still the same as they were. It's the faceless upper echelons who are not doing their bit, all you get from them is mouth music. I sincerely hope that this plan for the town works out, I doubt if I will still be here when its finished but that's what comes of being a KOS.

Bandycoot,

What's a KOS? - sorry if that a stupid question or I'm being plain stupid????????

Birkenhead is not alone but it is a shining example of how standards have deteriorated in recent times. It seems as if there is a different type of poverty these days. Years ago many families slept three in a bed and had hardly any clothes to wear but the wives and mothers scrubbed their steps and polished their brasses. Being poor is no excuse for losing your self respect and dignity. The council and the government should not be blamed for anything that goes wrong in peoples' lives and schools should not be blamed for undisciplined children. People should be responsible for themselves and their families. The difference between want and need must be learned, welfare benefits are not meant to pay for designer clothes and mobile phones. Moral standards are in rapid decline and I fear that should this present economic crisis plummet to the level that we are all seriously effected, the streets of Birkenhead will become a jungle as opposed to a community.

haha yes missed out the bagheads mate, have u not seen them everywere.

what they need is a natural disaster so they can start again with the area. i am ashamed that on my passport its say born in birkenhead i hate the place

Its a good job nobody on here takes you seriously Tony.

haha u no its a shithole thats why nobody goes there

It has a population of about 100,000, so somebody must come here.

its only the people that live there who like it. the rest of the country just sees it as an eyesore and prey to god that we dont get anymore of them living in r area, like we dealt the brunt of birkenhead north!!!!!

So if the people that live here like it, what right has someone from outside the area have to criticise it.
I would feel very uncomfortable criticising anywhere i didn't live, how could I know the full facts.

we have the rite to criticise it when our area gets made worse and we suffer because the council moved all the benefit ... of birkenhead north to wallasey and secombe which increased out crime rates dramaticlly, that why we hav the right to criticise

Well if you live in Wallasey or Seacombe you have every right to criticise what goes on there, especially if you have first hand knowledge, should I criticise the whole of Wallasy because one family around the corner moved here from there, and their unsavory.

I'm an outsider so to speak,my mum and i moved here in 78,she ran a dockside pub,yes it was rough and ready,a lot of customers came from the north end,but you know what,we made many lovely friends and they looked out for us,we wanted for nothing,any jobs that needed doing on the pub were done for just the price of a pint,or for nothing most of the time!
So i can't see how you can [censored] Birkenhead off,i would imagine nowadays every little part of the country has bad residents.
And the shopping centre has become less busy from years back,but hasn't every town centre.

Bert I have to speak up now i have met and are still friends with a lot of people in Seacombe Birkenhead north The Nocky and the Ford estate lovely people down to earth .I never once would call them nor look down my nose at them .It`s just an area ,nothing wrong with it in my opinion ,but if people changed their attitude`s and respected one another :)that might make a big difference and no i am not having a dig just an opinion