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Originally Posted by EsoxLucius


Yup... it sounds insensitive, though some is perhaps appropriate for a separate thread on traffic concerns in general... I stumbled across this thread/forum and having two boys at Calday am privy to more information than is here... a boy of 17 lost his life and there are 6 other people who are injured... 2 remain in ITU... I am amazed and disappointed at the "speculation" and misinformation that has been written by some...



Just making an observation thats all like i said no one deserves this to happen to them.
having lost a friend of mine when i was 17 for a very similar incident.
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However, Lord_of_the_M53, I would suggest that you contact the police regarding what you saw because if this lad was driving like a loon then they will need as much evidence as possible to back up their case. If it's proved that he was being stupid and that it directly lead to this accident then I'm afraid that if he pulls through he's going to be in some serious trouble.


And what if it was another black fiesta with a lot of lads in...? I suspect that many lives will have been ruined by yesterday's tragic event and no amount of law enforcement etc deserved or otherwise will turn the clock back... Having two teenage boys... well there but for the grace of God etc!

There is a photo of the cars at the scene on the Daily Post website... and the fact it has "lost" its doors and the roof panels off both cars might suggest that the fire service may well have had a hand in the "lost" doors.

The quality of reporting sometimes... leads to varied interpretation!

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Then the police will disregard the info. It'll be a thorough investigation and not a case of 'some bloke said they saw a black Fiesta 4-up in West Kirby driving like a knob so he must be guilty.

But they'll have witness statements from lots of people on the scene and they'll piece it all together. As an example I know of someone who had a crash and seriously injured a motorcyclist.

3 cars back was a bloke who had been overtaken by him earlier in the journey who was able to describe in detail just how he'd been driving prior to the accident. They're able to get a good impression of what has happened that way and before anyone jumps on me I'm in no way suggesting the driver was being a knob behind the wheel.

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The Fiesta had also lost both doors on the driver’s side.


Wasn't a Fiesta ST then.

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I'd also like to add that although I didn't know him personally, we have mutual friends and I can see how it's affecting everyone so let's not lose sight of the fact a young boy has lost his life.

RIP Jonny Brown.

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Originally Posted by AlexB


However, Lord_of_the_M53, I would suggest that you contact the police regarding what you saw because if this lad was driving like a loon then they will need as much evidence as possible to back up their case. If it's proved that he was being stupid and that it directly lead to this accident then I'm afraid that if he pulls through he's going to be in some serious trouble.


And what if it was another black fiesta with a lot of lads in...? I suspect that many lives will have been ruined by yesterday's tragic event and no amount of law enforcement etc deserved or otherwise will turn the clock back... Having two teenage boys... well there but for the grace of God etc!

There is a photo of the cars at the scene on the Daily Post website... and the fact it has "lost" its doors and the roof panels off both cars might suggest that the fire service may well have had a hand in the "lost" doors.

The quality of reporting sometimes... leads to varied interpretation!



If your sons had died in that crash you would want the police to do everything they can to find out what happen. I know I would, do you have something to tell us abou the black car to me it seems you don't like the fact someone has said go the police with what they had seen. M53 go the police like Alex has said...

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Originally Posted by Daily Post
The Fiesta had also lost both doors on the driver’s side.


Wasn't a Fiesta ST then.


Looking at picture on the Daily Posts website It's a 3 door

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Originally Posted by polo_phil

Looking at picture on the Daily Posts website It's a 3 door


I may be being stupid but I can't see a picture of the car on the website, I just see a picture of a police car and a police van.

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Thanks.

It's a 3 door but it's still not an ST.

Wrong wheels and the door strips aren't colour coded.

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Originally Posted by Lord_of_the_M53
Phoned and reported


Well done.

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Great stuff mate thumbsup it may be nothing but best to report it wink

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i honestly hope its not related and it was a genuine accident and no one is to blame


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Sounds like an accident just waiting to happen :

Ford Fiesta with four youths in it & being driven by a 17 year old vs. Nissan Micra with two women aged 83 and 84 (one of whom was driving) on a well known accident black spot.

So sad for all concerned.

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