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Some good points made there, Wench.

Yes, I will try not to let the constant rejections or mass silences from contacted employers get me down too much, and will try to move on.

It's hard, though, so hard, especially when you badly need a job as much as I do.

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It will be their OWN fault for taking on somebody who would have been better replaced by an employee like me, who would ALWAYS be punctual, and would ALWAYS avoid larking around on the job like an idiot. In short, they would miss out on a good worker.


... who had a better CV and interview skills.

NB: the above is a thinly veiled tip.

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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67
You have to jump through all these ridiculous hoops (e.g. lengthy online questionnaires, crazy assessment days etc.).


I'm afraid they have the pick of a rather large barrel, and if you can't be bothered with these 'hoops' then their view will be that you're not the sort of person they want working for them.

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AlexB: I have DONE all that. None of them have any vacancies. Other people whom I've talked to in various work clubs have also done exactly the same thing. They've had no luck either.

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AlexB

Another thing I should point out is that when you call into a lot of these stores, they tell you that they are not accepting hand delivered CVs, but to just apply online at the company website.

I have even heard some horror stories about certain employers who do accept personally delivered CVs - and then, the second the hopeful applicant has left the store, coldly rip up the CV and chuck it into the bin.

(Sigh) The path of the unemployed certainly doesn't run nice and smooth in these troubled, turbulent times.

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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67
AlexB: I have DONE all that. None of them have any vacancies. Other people whom I've talked to in various work clubs have also done exactly the same thing. They've had no luck either.


I'm going back to that old saying 'chuck enough shit'.

I've never had an issue getting a job, I moved jobs in the property industry at the height of the recession.

When I came out of uni I sent CV's out, I followed up with phone calls, I visited in person, I offered to do a weeks trial unpaid the latter of which persuaded them I was serious and worth a go.

Honestly, channel this frustration and anger into thinking of different ways to grab peoples attention.

Idea... write your normal covering letter and screw it up into a ball, pop it in an envelope and send it out explaining you are looking for work etc and that you realise in this climate that they may not be looking and if this is the case then you have saved them the bother of screwing up you letter.

If they're going to remember one person, it'll be you.

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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67

(Sigh) The path of the unemployed certainly doesn't run nice and smooth in these troubled, turbulent times.


One thing we agree on.

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Jobneeded - I got to be honest with you mate but I am trying to figure you out. I appreciate it is really hard for you at the moment to find work under the current climate. You are not alone - there are 2.5 million others. What you have in your favour is that you WANT to work so keep plugging away. Stay focused, stay postive.

The part I don't get is you relentless posting of our "thoughts" and "opinions" of your situation. You open yourself up to ridicule and abuse. Alex summed it up

"You need to channel this (a)pathetic, woe-is-me attitude more constructively."

Jeez mate(taking "67" as the year you are born in) you are not quite in your mid-40s and have a lot to offer...

....so take advice on your CV as it may need slight changing, join temp agencies and then get on their backs, do some voluntary work. You have to make it happen.

Be fookin POSITIVE!

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wright down everything you've done and sent off for don't have just one c.v. have friends or family read your cv and ask if they would add anything to it or take stuff out. do the same with your letters to eg don't put dear sir/madam try and find the persons name, and don't put " I am writing to you" as it's fooking plain for all to see that your writing to them.

don't use stuff like

I worked for mcD's spell their whole name.

if your C.V. is not working for you try getting a company to make you a new one, your dole will have tons on people who'll help you if you need it just ask.

may I ask what work you're looking for?

ring them back get fed back but don't ring at 4:50pm if they close at 5pm raftl

ask in the dole about the future job fund in with their will look at what jobs will becoming live soon so you can get your name down 1st.

hope this helps you out.

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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67
it would be THEIR loss.

Agreed?


Not in the slightest!

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Cheers, PaulWirral, I take your point.

Am sorry if I may have irked some people by going on too much about my constant unemployment, but I just had to talk to somebody to tell them exactly how I feel as the months of constant job rejections or mass silences from employers has really cut deep into my self respect and self-confidence, as I am sure you can appreciate.

Anyway, as they used to say in the MARVEL comics, 'nuff said on that. Rest assured that your advice will be taken on board.

Thanks again.

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Ah well,Grandmasterflash, to each his own.

I give up on you. Wasting my time.

Happily, other people have been very helpful to me on these boards, and to them, I offer my deepest thanks.

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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67

Am sorry if I may have irked some people by going on too much about my constant unemployment, but I just had to talk to somebody to tell them exactly how I feel as the months of constant job rejections or mass silences from employers has really cut deep into my self respect and self-confidence, as I am sure you can appreciate.


Totally, I don't doubt that it's a horrible position to be in and you have every sympathy.

However, I'd recommend perhaps starting a thread named 'my hunt for a job' and updating us like that. People are interested, I'm sure, so perhaps start a blog like topic that people can offer advice and tips and in return you can share your experiences.

Just a thought.

Something like miketrains blog on his train set build; imagine if he posted a new thread every time he added a bit.


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Originally Posted by Jobneeded67
Ah well,Grandmasterflash, to each his own.

I give up on you. Wasting my time .


I really couldn't care less, you are wasting your time being on here when you could be out looking for a job. You've been given advice and chose not to take it, I suggested a blog and you had a moan, I can't imagine an employer wanting to take on someone who thinks he's entitled to the job and will be so negative and mopey when you don't get a gold star at the end of the day. I hope you get a job for this forum's sake!

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