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If you cut these people free from the benefits system they'll have to find other ways to survive, which would make the current wave of criminal activity seem like a walk in the park. It's a badly thought through knee jerk reaction. 
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Reckless immoral bankers
Corrupt fraudulent MPS
Debased voyeur TV
Bent Coppers
Media manipulation of the News
PM bought by a right wing press baron
Bling and celebrity culture shoved in your face wherever you turn
Rising Food bills
Rising energy bills
Frozen or falling salaries
Rising taxes
Drop in average living standards
Dismantling of public services
Welcome to Britain 2011 - a shabby country ruled by shabby thieves and hypocrites. Shabby thieves at the top and at the bottom. Only difference is one group walk around in suits and the other walk around godawful tracksuit and hoodies.
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Reckless immoral bankers
Corrupt fraudulent MPS
Debased voyeur TV
Bent Coppers
Media manipulation of the News
PM bought by a right wing press baron
Bling and celebrity culture shoved in your face wherever you turn
Rising Food bills
Rising energy bills
Frozen or falling salaries
Rising taxes
Drop in average living standards
Dismantling of public services
Billy Joel could have a field day 
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Billy Joel could have a field day I'm waiting for Matt's seven page reply before judgement 
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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I'm waiting for Matt's seven page reply before judgement 
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When I was down the Falklands the RIC went on a bender and then wrecked all the windows in the covered way. The CO got them all together and told them that if they liked fresh air that much they could have it, issued them with tents and made them live out in the bondu, and it was bloody freezing. I don't think they ever did it again. Punishments should fit the crime where possible.
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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Billy Joel could have a field day I'm waiting for Matt's seven page reply before judgement Yes, it should make for an interesting read. However, I'm sure his response will be more nuanced and analytical than the fooking rubbish coming out of our useless windbag politicians.
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Reckless immoral bankers
Corrupt fraudulent MPS
Debased voyeur TV
Bent Coppers
Media manipulation of the News
PM bought by a right wing press baron
Bling and celebrity culture shoved in your face wherever you turn
Rising Food bills
Rising energy bills
Frozen or falling salaries
Rising taxes
Drop in average living standards
Dismantling of public services
Welcome to Britain 2011 - a shabby country ruled by shabby thieves and hypocrites. Shabby thieves at the top and at the bottom. Only difference is one group walk around in suits and the other walk around godawful tracksuit and hoodies. Brilliant! Did I write this? If I didn't,I wish I had.  Well said, Touchstone. 
Clones are people two !
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Reckless immoral bankers
Corrupt fraudulent MPS
Debased voyeur TV
Bent Coppers
Media manipulation of the News
PM bought by a right wing press baron
Bling and celebrity culture shoved in your face wherever you turn
Rising Food bills
Rising energy bills
Frozen or falling salaries
Rising taxes
Drop in average living standards
Dismantling of public services
Welcome to Britain 2011 - a shabby country ruled by shabby thieves and hypocrites. Shabby thieves at the top and at the bottom. Only difference is one group walk around in suits and the other walk around godawful tracksuit and hoodies. Brilliant! Did I write this? If I didn't,I wish I had. Well said, Touchstone. Why thank you my good man. Actually, I lifted it from the Guardian's comment section but I can't find the link to it.
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Lots of police around in Birkenhead, when we left. The bus driver 'backed up' what we saw, for ourselves. The police are stopping and searching people in and around the Town centre. 
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![[Linked Image]](http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k426/snickasevans/dailysmiley/yay-1.gif) to the police. I know it gives me faith that we will return to the 'norm' in no time, I'd rather that than go through what happend again.
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Axing of benefits and possible evictions are only going to pass
the problem along to someone to try to sort out.
If these rioters have no money or shelter will this create a new class of criminals who will think nothing of going on the rampage again, burglaries and muggings and any other means to obtain money.
^^This. If you cut these people free from the benefits system they'll have to find other ways to survive, which would make the current wave of criminal activity seem like a walk in the park. It's a badly thought through knee jerk reaction. agree it'll just have them stealing etc in order to survive!! As if it will happen loosing their benefits because of their 'human rights'
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