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#526261 - 30th May 2011 10:09pm old birkenhead
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found these pics,park station and birkenhead docks dated 1930


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#526480 - 31st May 2011 4:32pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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Nice pictures.
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#526489 - 31st May 2011 5:05pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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Is that Mammoth (floating crane) near the centre if the 2nd pic?

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#526498 - 31st May 2011 6:02pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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The Mammoth always used to moor up there.

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#526608 - 31st May 2011 9:39pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: Tatey]
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Didn't we take the Mammoth from the Germans for war reparations? Assuming if we did then it must have been the first war if that is a thirties photo and it is true?

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#526621 - 31st May 2011 9:52pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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"Mersey Mammoth" was only built in 1986 by Ravestein in Holland.

The one in the picture looks more like the "London Mammoth"


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#526632 - 31st May 2011 10:09pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
"Mersey Mammoth" was only built in 1986 by Ravestein in Holland.

The one in the picture looks more like the "London Mammoth"


Always been the Mammoth to me and that is going back to when I was a kid and they used it to put the new walkways on New Brighton ferry.

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#526640 - 31st May 2011 10:24pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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I was a bit confused over it, I remember seeing the Mammoth along time before 1986, I didn't realise they had sneaked another one in.

I'll pop into the Williamson Art Gallery sometime and ask, pretty sure they used to display a model of it as well as the massive floating dock.
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#526678 - 31st May 2011 11:19pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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In the 50s there where at the very least 5 floating cranes on the river all owned by the MERSEY DOCK BOARD AND HARBOUR BOARD. The names that i knew of where the MAMMOTH, HERCULES, SAMSON, TITAN, BIRKETT. they where all known by the singuler name. the MAMMOTH been the larger {biggest lifting capacity} of them all. Some where there is a we site of the dock board arcives that shows them all at various times at work. The MAMMOTH was on the river at least as early as 1921, there is a photo of her lifting a section of the landing stage that was been repaired at New Brighton Pier
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#526716 - 1st Jun 2011 6:26am Re: old birkenhead [Re: Helles]
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Originally Posted By: Helles
Didn't we take the Mammoth from the Germans for war reparations? Assuming if we did then it must have been the first war if that is a thirties photo and it is true?


The Mammoth was originally built for the Russians, the Sale never went ahead due to revolution in 1917. MDHB bought it instead around 1920.
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#526739 - 1st Jun 2011 8:50am Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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My father (who worked for the MD&HB) told me that at one time the Mammoth had been uprated to a higher tonnage, either by the Americans or using their money through "Lease Lend"

For what it's worth!

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#526811 - 1st Jun 2011 11:42am Re: old birkenhead [Re: Tatey]
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My dad used to get very angry when talking about the Thetis. He reckoned that Mammoth was in dock and could have easily been used to put a line around the stern and either pull her up or at least drag her to shallower water.

As we all know, the admiralty wouldn't allow anything with very tragic consequences.

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#526850 - 1st Jun 2011 2:55pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: Helles]
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#526889 - 1st Jun 2011 5:15pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: john1788]
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Excellent photos John

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#527035 - 1st Jun 2011 9:09pm Re: old birkenhead [Re: Helles]
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Dearest Helles,

Did you forget about our pint tonight?

Take care, mate

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