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I can't really see how you, as an American, can comment on our judicial system and the benefits of innocent until proven guilty; Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graeb spring to mind...

Most of the British systems seem to be following the American model and we are gradually (rightly or wrongly) becoming the same.

BTW CVCVCV isn't an American

Must have been there a while then?

here we go again,

Come on lads

My comment wasn't a dig, just genuinely interested based on the use of the letter Z instead of S a couple of times.

The use of Z is a bit of a conundrum - until WW2, printed British English used the Z then for some reason it changed to S. The Americans have continued with the traditional use and we have drifted.

Most English dictionaries still have ize but beware of what you think is an English dictionary, most are not!

I don't know how long CVCVCV has been state-side.

Not directed at anyone in particular, as far as i know CV is there now and was very oppinionated on the osama thread seemed very patriotic to me, each to their own though

Seemed to be repping the yanks imo

On the spot fines for bad drivers eh? Seems kind of sexist....

I ain't payin no on the spot fines end of!
I pay enough in road tax every year they ain't blagging more cash out of me, hate this damn country.

Goverment just looking for more revenue, robbing gets as you said we pay enough and look at the kip of the roads round here, will be sending the council a nice bill for a rear shock that i've just had to fork out on after running over an Abyss on Greasby road,

Its nowt to do with saftey just money, money, money if they are so concerned about saftey why increase motorway speed limit to 80, because they know more people will do 90 - 100 and they can dbf them more.

it may learn bus drivers how to bloody pull into bus stops withot there ass end sticking out do they think that because there rear end is sticking out gives them the right to just ind and pull out bloody bus drivers has enyone ever seen a bus driver getting pulled over by the law. ??

Been living in the US since 1996. Born and bred in Wallasey Village. Now have dual citizenship (even though neither country formally acknowledges that there is such a thing!)

I do try and remember to spell things the English way on here but I forget sometimes!

Your perception of both countries (native and adopted) I think changes a lot after living in the adopted one for some time.. I'm sure mine has, after oh, 15 years here now, this year...
If I do seem to be repping America, well its not really intended that way, just trying to get you to see things about your own country from a different perspective. Sometimes, "the onlooker sees most of the game" (and this I'm quite sure, also works both ways...!) Some changes happen so slowly and gradually that you may not notice the cumulative effect until it's too late, like the hour hand on the clock, it really is moving..! But being away a few years and then coming back, wow! You see the changes. All those cameras, for example... I got quite a shock, to be honest! - same thing with al the steel shutters on all the shops - it is so damn UGLY to see. But you guys maybe, don't even notice them, they've crept up on you... just as government controls can, over all aspects of life. Freedom is something you don't miss until you wake up one day and it's gone. I see nothing wrong with people that want to "guard their freedoms jealously" (as do many Americans). I honestly do admire this about my adopted country and I wish I could do so more, about my native one, is all. I do not want the government to do everything for me from cradle to grave. I don't want to think that the only reason people obey the law or behave themselves in public is because big brother is watching ver us 24/7. I want to let people be responsible for their own behaviour, not the government.
OK sorry - I didn't mean this to turn into a rant... sorry if it did!

Good to see your view on things cv

Cheers Ste!

I want to see the definitive description of what is Tailgating !

WHY : Well driving back from work the other day the traffic was now running at about 50 instead of the the 70mph.

When the traffic slows you naturally keep a bit closer to the car in-front, closer than any highway code recommendation for stopping at a safe distance. But you naturally close the gap after the 3rd car has under took and slipped in front of you. After the first or the second car its more then enough to decide to stay closer.

Is that Tailgating or is that keeping up with traffic?
Until there is a definitive "Tailgating" description were all at risk of a ticket.

Something to think about.