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#482800 - 9th Mar 2011 9:57am Births, Marriages, Deaths
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Are there any actual sites that,

Show the name of the parents (birth)
Show the Fathers names (marriage)
Next of Kin (death)

Up to now, apart from one parish site, all i keep getting is a name, place, they could be anyone, then the con kicks in, send away for certificate which might not be the right one, I understand a trip to the records office would help, but just wondering if there is anything online.
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#482818 - 9th Mar 2011 10:21am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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I got myself a Ancestry Family Tree maker program which comes with six months access to Ancestry.co.uk

This is an excellent resource for BMD information and has most up to date and acurate infomation.

I paid 29 for the software package which gave me full access to all records both english and irish.
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#482829 - 9th Mar 2011 10:30am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: ManxCat]
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Thanks Manxcat, I've got the full Ancestry, unless I'm doing something terribly wrong, i just get a name and place, it really could be anyone, it would help if it showed parents names in Births for example, at least one would be able to tell if one was on the right track.
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#482834 - 9th Mar 2011 10:35am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Bert, I'm on there as well. I think the rule of thumb is that you shouldn't pay out for docs unless you are dead certain of the facts as to who the person is. There are lots who have paid out for false trails. I don't anyone is conning anyone though, just don't order on flimsy evidence. I haven't ordered any myself so gen is only from reading other peoples woes. Most of the bits I know of my lot are from someone else paying for the docs, got back to 1760 on paternal line.
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#482835 - 9th Mar 2011 10:36am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Just a suggestion, bert ...but have you tried looking at the 'Family History Society of Cheshire' web-site? There's quite a lot of good advice and useful links etc., on there.

Might be worth a browse.

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#482847 - 9th Mar 2011 10:45am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: Geekus]
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Thanks Geekus, I'll try that.


Bandy, i don't want the certs, as you know, the fathers name is on the census, its getting the womans maiden name, thats the main problem.


Edited by bert1 (9th Mar 2011 10:45am)
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#482857 - 9th Mar 2011 10:56am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Register with Ancestry - they give you a free 14 day trial. They do take your details, but if you cancel within the 14 days they do not charge you smile
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#482865 - 9th Mar 2011 11:05am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Agree on the maiden name bit bert, some records here and there have them on but you have to hunt all over the place. It takes so much time you hardly have time to get on Wiki. Good hunting anyway.
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#482867 - 9th Mar 2011 11:06am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: StuyMac]
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Fully paid up member Stu, Grrrrrrrrrrr and to the crash hat wearing society.
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#482873 - 9th Mar 2011 11:08am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Is it possible to find an exact death date on there? I registered, and all I got was month and year - which I already knew.... think
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#482877 - 9th Mar 2011 11:15am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Yes, when you sign up to Ancestry they do take your card details but you can cancel at anytime or change your card number on their systems.

There have been problems with people trying to cancel the trial subscriptions, some syaing it took up to eighteen months.

I have printed off the parish records instead of paying for the actual certificates.
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#482881 - 9th Mar 2011 11:20am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: StuyMac]
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Originally Posted By: StuyMac
Is it possible to find an exact death date on there? I registered, and all I got was month and year - which I already knew.... think


You won't get the actual day of anything, just the month or quarter, they want you to send away for the cert for more detailed info.
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#482886 - 9th Mar 2011 11:34am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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#482897 - 9th Mar 2011 11:59am Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: BandyCoot]
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Just as a general pointer: -

Birth index shows the maiden names of the mother on records from Sept, 1911 but not before.

From March 1912, the marriage index shows the suname of the new spouse.

Death indexes from March 1866 to 1969 show the deceased's age at death. From June 1969, the deceased's date of birth is shown. frown

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#482997 - 9th Mar 2011 3:51pm Re: Births, Marriages, Deaths [Re: bert1]
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Originally Posted By: bert1

Bandy, i don't want the certs, as you know, the fathers name is on the census, its getting the womans maiden name, thats the main problem.


If you have an idea of the date of marriage, try the freeBMD site (www.freebmd.org.uk/) which will show the full names of both spouses. Won't give you the actual date of marriage but could give you a maiden name to tie in with the wife's first name on the census.

Cheshire BMD (www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/) has a pretty good coverage for marriages - up to the 1930s and later for some places. Coverage varies for other parts of the country

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