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#470639 - 7th Feb 2011 11:32pm second hand cars!
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I recently bought a second hand car from bromborough, it was before christmas so never really got chance to go out in it last month, i started using my car as the weather got better and noticed that when i was going down hill the car just kept cutting out. I decided to take the car to a friend of the family who is a mechanic and he said that the car was not worth what i paid for it and there was a leak in the head gasket. When i found out this i took the car straight back to the place where i got it from. He told me to take the car to a garage that he uses. I gathered all my documents for the car and realised that my MOT certificate did not have an advisory page on it when taking it to the garage i asked where it was as they had carried out the MOT they said that it had been ripped off but i could get it online. So i did that an realised that there was alot of problems with the car that are and could be serious that i werent told about when purchasing the car. Have i got the right to take the car back and ask for a refund? if not what am i entitled to?

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#470642 - 7th Feb 2011 11:34pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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This is a friend of mine who I have told to come here for some advice, Thanks guys!
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#470643 - 7th Feb 2011 11:34pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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Was it a private Sale or a dealer?

If it is a private Sale and they said nothing to mislead you then there is nothing you can do. If if they misled you, unless you have proof there is nothing really achievable.
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#470646 - 7th Feb 2011 11:38pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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it was a dealer, when me an my boyfriend asked if he had had any problems with the car he said no, shouldnt have he before selling the car told me the things that where on the advisory?

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#470648 - 7th Feb 2011 11:40pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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There is no compulsion to tell you anything, what warranty was given and what sort of price range are we talking about.
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#470649 - 7th Feb 2011 11:41pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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out of intrest which place in bromborough was it as im having alot of problems with a car bought in bromborough

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#470654 - 7th Feb 2011 11:48pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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It was 995 for a t reg KA theres a 3 month warranty on it. Bt with all the things on the advisory i dont think i will even get 3 months out of the car.


It was a place in bromborough on the retail park

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#470661 - 7th Feb 2011 11:58pm Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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get what problems that are showing up put right by the dealer
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#470663 - 8th Feb 2011 12:00am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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Does he have to do that?

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#470664 - 8th Feb 2011 12:00am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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The advisories are just what they say, the car is still safe/roadworthy or it would be a fail. Some MOT stations get a bit carried away on advisories, its not totally uncommon to have an advisory one year and a full pass the next year without it being rectified.

The headgasket should be covered by the warranty, but it depends on the small print and any repair price cap that may exist.

If something is actually faulty then it is unlikely to be covered by warantee. Most of the advisories would probably come under this catagory.

You could try kicking up a stink and suggest you want your money back, but the garage doesn't have to take any notice.

Basically secondhand goods are expected not to be perfect but in the case of a car it is expected to be roadworthy if sold by a dealer.

Do you want to list the advisories and see if anyone else has any comments on them.
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#470667 - 8th Feb 2011 12:04am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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Front Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2a)

Nearside Inner sill Body has slight corrosion (6.1.3)

Offside Outer sill Body has slight corrosion (6.1.3)

Nearside Front chassis leg Body has slight corrosion (6.1.3)

Offside Front chassis leg Body has slight corrosion (6.1.3)

Offside Front suspension has slight movement at a wishbone pin or bush (2.5.A.1c)

Nearside Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f)

Offside front an nearside front brake discs

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#470668 - 8th Feb 2011 12:06am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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Was it the dealer near the Pet Food place?

If so some of there motors are over priced turds.

Was there a written reciept when you purchased it?

Now as these are Advisory the dealer should of rectified the problems, be it low brake pads, bushs etc.

Send a written letter to the dealer (recorded delivery) statingh you are not happy, list your problems etc.

Request you want the situation sorting ASAP, be it an independent garage rectifies the work or a full refund.
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#470671 - 8th Feb 2011 12:09am Re: second hand cars! [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
The advisories are just what they say, the car is still safe/roadworthy or it would be a fail. Some MOT stations get a bit carried away on advisories, its not totally uncommon to have an advisory one year and a full pass the next year without it being rectified.

The headgasket should be covered by the warranty, but it depends on the small print and any repair price cap that may exist.

If something is actually faulty then it is unlikely to be covered by warantee. Most of the advisories would probably come under this catagory.

You could try kicking up a stink and suggest you want your money back, but the garage doesn't have to take any notice.

Basically secondhand goods are expected not to be perfect but in the case of a car it is expected to be roadworthy if sold by a dealer.

Do you want to list the advisories and see if anyone else has any comments on them.



When you buy from a dealer you want 12months MOT not advisory's telling you in 2 months your brake pads etc are going to be shot (example btw)
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#470672 - 8th Feb 2011 12:09am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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Ive been told by a mechanic that the car is not at all worth what i paid. The advisory had been ripped off before the MOT certificate had been given to me. could he not just turn around and say that he wasnt aware of any advisories?

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#470675 - 8th Feb 2011 12:14am Re: second hand cars! [Re: Sarah2]
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MrPhil

Sorry to disagree, but as far as I am aware ...

As long as it roadworthy when sold then then the dealer has no responsibility to fix anything or warn you about it prior to the Sale.

The warantee usually covers faulty items but not things that wear such as brake pads/disks, bulbs, tyres, windscreen wiper blades etc
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