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police dogs be it GSD's, Malinois, labs or spaniels are seen to be doing a job they are trained to do. these dogs where put in that situation for entertainment purposes, Jeez, we banned circus animals didn't we? using animals like this is cruel and unnecessary.

[quote/] using animals like this is cruel and unnecessary. [/quote] dean gaffney being electrocuted- my idea of fun.

dean gaffney being electrocuted- my idea of fun. [/quote]

Oh Yes!!!

Team Jen.

There's a big difference between what these animals do and how they live and captive animals in a circus and a zoo for that matter. These animals are highly trained and its to the benefit of their owner, trainer, to keep them happy and in good health. If acting in a cage for a short period is considered cruel, most boarding kennels in GB can expect to be closed down. I expect if these dogs were playing a Rin Tin Tin role, always the hero, nothing would be said.

Oh well! Upward and onward- Team Keith!

How do you know these animals where highly trained, there is no mention as to where they where from, they could of been from the pound down the road/owned by people on the ITV set/brought in by ordinary if not stupid dog owners!
or the they could of been taken there by the r***a charity for all we know.

Going by memory, all animals used as performers on TV have to be licensed, and have vets certificates, i think, but correct me if I'm wrong, have to have a vet on stand by, especially on location, lets say out in the wilds. There are certain laws to be observed in this country.

I wouldn't know Bert
I have never heard of such laws TBH. so I don't know if they exist or even abided by.

I agree Tilly. No one knows where the dogs came from or whether they were "trained performers". They dont have to be traind performers to take part in this show as they werent asked to do anything and werent performing in any way, they were simply caged and taunted with meaty smelling humans wriggling past them.

Re the ridiculous comments made about police dogs, we are all fully aware police dogs are trained to do a certain job whether they be Malinois, GSD, Rottie or sniffer spaniels for example. We are also all aware that these police dogs are monitored regularly by vets and by strict codes of conduct. We are not however, aware that this is the case with the dogs depicted in this tv show. Hence the complaints as people want info that this IS indeed the case. Also my letter relates to the message the programme conveys. Police dogs barking/snarling/growling at criminals conveys the message that they are highly trained to fight crime at their trainers command, no such message was conveyed in this programme bar that they are a breed of dog to be afraid of which, as I have already stated is an irresponsible message to send out to the wary public.

Finally relating to the "if the dog played a hero nothing would be said" comment, that would be because the "hero" is rarely tehtered and worked into a frenzy by Z list "celebs" parading round their cages with meat attached to them. Common sense really.....

And I havent registered as I came across this thread via google whilst posting on other like forums with the links for complaints, saw someone had already started a thread about it and that I didnt need to register to post.

No, Circus animals aren't banned, they are regulated though.

Here is a link that may be of use

CLICKY

thanks DD just found the article stating
'Circuses Facing ban on wild animals'
I apologise i thought this was already in force

it should of been done years ago IMO.

anyway we are not talking about wild animals we are talking about dogs! German Shepherds to be precise

well said Anonymous



OK nice to meet you anyway

In the last 36 years i have had 3 GSD and a Terrier cross and they were all encouraged, yes encouraged to show aggression and go berserk when anyone came near my property, door knocking, postmen, window cleaners and milkmen etc. The 3 GSD were trained to a high standard and would bark, growl and show aggression to anyone who was thought threatening whilst out amongst the public. Yet it was all an illusion, In reality they were all as daft as a brush.

Gsd in police and security work maybe highly trained but one of the attributes they have to have is aggression, not an illusion of aggression, they have to have it or they are rejected. It would be pointless to have such working dogs without it.

If you persist in your quest of trying to prove a point, that a TV programme are using untrained and unsupervised dogs that show that amount of aggression, whether caged and goaded or not, in my opinion you can only damage, not only the reputation of the breed but it may well lead to a witch hunt by the press and eventually end up having these dogs put down.
Thankfully i don't believe that is the case, i still think they were performing under the guidance of a trainer within the rules laid out.