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#314688 - 1st May 2009 10:28pm Duty of Care
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I would appriciate any advice really hmm, as I seem to be hitting brick walls of silence.I am a tenant in a grade 2 listed building which is due to have its roof removed. So far the scaffold has gone up and the over roof is due to go on in the next few weeks.

I raised concerns with both my landlord and local council (whom are supportive) that taking the roof off will leave the elderly tenants on the top floor only inches away from the outside world, the top floor flats are what is called attic space flats and do not have any loft space so it will be plaster board then the outside world. I was amazed to hear that the landlord feels that its ok to leave the elderly on the top floor whilst the works are in progress

(six months of work to go).The noise from having some of the roof timbers stripped out and risk of burgulary
are very worrying. The building has fine lead detailing which may be a target for some.

Both my MPs have raised concerns about the risk of burgulary and the fear associated. Does my landlord have any obligation to provide security? taking into account our high listed status? they are already suffering loss of light due to the over roof and loss of privacy as contractors peer in through windows.

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#314692 - 1st May 2009 10:46pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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#314695 - 1st May 2009 11:06pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: bert1]
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Duty of care by the contractors, it is an unacceptable risk that workers will be above residents with tools and equipment with only plasterboard to protect any drops - including the builder falling. Ask for details of the builders 3rd party liability insurance, then phone the insurance company!

PJ?

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#314696 - 1st May 2009 11:08pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: diggingdeeper]
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PS might be worthwhile phoning landlords insurance as well, his certificate will be on the wall somewhere.
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#314701 - 1st May 2009 11:24pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: diggingdeeper]
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thanks I will try that on Tuesday (bank holiday coming up) the landlord isnt bothered he said so, he said its up to the contractor?

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#314707 - 1st May 2009 11:33pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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Even if the landlord doesn't give one, that doesn't stop his insurance from being twitchy, they may always be in for a 50/50 liability with the contractors insurance if something happened.
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#314713 - 1st May 2009 11:38pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: diggingdeeper]
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thankyou I really appriciate your advice, so far no one has been able to offer any suggestions so its really appriciated. I will start the ball rolling on Tuesday,
thnku

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#314759 - 2nd May 2009 2:16am Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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Hmmm, theres also cause for concern over idiots climbing the scaffolding for `fun`
This doesn`t sound very proffesional to be leaving tennants in whilst changing the roof either think
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#315012 - 3rd May 2009 2:37am Re: Duty of Care [Re: _Ste_]
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thanku all i will let u know

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#315058 - 3rd May 2009 3:07pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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Only just seen this post. I'll do some digging later and get back to you asap.
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#315141 - 3rd May 2009 9:13pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: Wench]
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I was getting worried that you didn't step in on this one PJ.
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#315154 - 3rd May 2009 9:41pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: diggingdeeper]
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thanku,

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#316654 - 6th May 2009 11:44pm Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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spoken to the contractors they said they dont communicate with us and that I have to get in touch with the landlord, *sighs* tried contacting the landlord several times but no returned calls. I have also contacted wirral environmental health (health and safety) they just said they would get back to me! so there u go not much luck.

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#316694 - 7th May 2009 12:10am Re: Duty of Care [Re: purfek]
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I've got a friend looking into it for you as it's not my area - as soon as he gets back to me I'll let you know hon.
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#316701 - 7th May 2009 12:15am Re: Duty of Care [Re: Wench]
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thanku

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