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#280097 - 4th Jan 2009 11:45am small scale lawn
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I wonder if anyone can offer advice - we have a concrete 'yard' and would like to change it into a garden without digging up the concrete. Patio tubs look fine but a small grassy area also would be ideal. How do you build this - I thought about small rubble/boulders followed by topsoil then some grass seeds. How much depths do you need for the boulders and the topsoil? I have bricks built up around this area. Has anyone made something similar?

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#280104 - 4th Jan 2009 11:54am Re: small scale lawn [Re: ponytail]
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Yard ?
First i would ask if you get plenty of sunshine there?
Or you could run into problems with Normal Turf.
(Will die and not grow).

The Rocks and Stone, is only for drainage, to prevent
the soil area becoming boggy.

You need a good foot of top soil to let the grass bind and
grow, anything less would be iffy.

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#280108 - 4th Jan 2009 12:16pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: Mark]
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Hi, thanks for the reply. The area is in the shade until midday then is shaded again from roughly 5pm onwards. The wall is 7 foot high on one side of this. I did not realise how much top soil I needed. How much rock and stone should I use?

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#280110 - 4th Jan 2009 12:19pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: ponytail]
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Listen to Mark, he is the Lawn Guru!!!!
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#280119 - 4th Jan 2009 12:46pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: hoseman]
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Listen to Mark, he is the Lawn Guru!!!!
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withthat Ive seen his lawn smile

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#280161 - 4th Jan 2009 3:16pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: ponytail]
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Originally Posted By: gloria
Hi, thanks for the reply. The area is in the shade until midday then is shaded again from roughly 5pm onwards. The wall is 7 foot high on one side of this. I did not realise how much top soil I needed. How much rock and stone should I use?


You will have to buy shaded seeds or buy shaded Turf ?
You can get them as its used for lawns with lots of trees.

If you don't you wont have any grass to look at in 2 weeks.
Or at best very very patchy.

ok Top Soil 10cm when compressed down.

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#280317 - 4th Jan 2009 8:03pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: Mark]
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Have you considered artificial grass as;
http://www.asgoodasgrass.co.uk
or
http://www.evergreensuk.com

they use this in the Big Brother Garden.

After looking at this I am considering ripping up my lawn and laying this, no mowing required then lol.
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#280444 - 4th Jan 2009 11:14pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: Waddi]
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asgoodasgrass have an Ebay store sellinf old stock cheaper;
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/AsGoodAsGrass
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#280482 - 5th Jan 2009 12:02am Re: small scale lawn [Re: Waddi]
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Its expensive for what it is, and i'm sure it don't smell like grass lol

I did see a program on the TV and a woman spent 10k
on her back garden just on this stuff because the dog
was forever coming in the house dirty omg

Get rid of the dog smack (In a nice way).


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#281794 - 9th Jan 2009 8:07am Re: small scale lawn [Re: Mark]
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Thanks for the replies. I will start to fill in the rubble over the coming weeks.

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#307357 - 7th Apr 2009 8:41am Re: small scale lawn [Re: ponytail]
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Just starting on the border but thought that if I put grass down it may block the drains in the garden. If it is a heavy railfall the soil will become soggy and seep through. I saw the astro turf - good idea but very expensive. I'm off now to do a bit of work and see what I can use for patio containers. I like the rustic feel of a garden, more homely. Also - has anyone planted seeds to encourage bees into their garden, they were free from the internet a few months ago? How are the flowers doing - any bees yet?

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#307882 - 8th Apr 2009 9:30pm Re: small scale lawn [Re: ponytail]
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can i have some seeds that DIScourage bees from coming anywhere near my garden.

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