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Terrorist attack #1080446
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Looks like another terrorist attack in Vienna.. Number of people shot..It all kicking off again what with France now Austria and elsewhere , I know it never went away but God haven't we got enough to worry about!
Obviously it means nothing to these fanatics it just helps them I expect. What a world!

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Just seen this , Cools. Began at a synagogoue.

BBC report says " A number of suspects armed with rifles launched the assault in six locations, police said. "


Charlie Hebdo have a lot to answer for, and Macron is another who just couldn't bring himself to say that making cartoons of Mohammed was wrong and he failed to condemn Charlie Hebdo's second act of defiance against Islam.

I just hope our politicians keep their mouths shut , or we'll get the same backlash .


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What has Charlie Hebdo and Austria got to do with each other?


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Thanks for explaining that for me Granny, I hadn’t realised that it was Charlie Hebdo and Macron who were at fault for refusing to appease the murdering Islamist savages. What a cowardly post.

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Not a lot, apart from the fact that Charlie Hebdo has not been condemned by any EU country, and the ECHR is based in Vienna, where an Austrian woman was accused of calling Mohammed a child abuser, but again it was classed as freedom of expression.
"Europe's ever-steady march towards illiberal, totalitarian nonsense continues apace. The European Court of Human Rights ruled this week that defaming the Prophet Muhammad is not protected speech. More specifically, the court said an “Austrian woman’s conviction for calling the prophet of Islam a pedophile didn’t breach her freedom of speech,” the Associated Press reported. "
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Considering 10,000's of the Muslim world have been protesting and burning effergies of Macron over the last few days,and the fact that a synagogue has been attacked also, is pretty ominous and threatening.

The fact that Samuel Paty was killed by a Chechen, is also extremely concerning, when we know the Chechens were the animals committing the worst of the atrocities linked to ISIS .


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Originally Posted by Fidelio
Thanks for explaining that for me Granny, I hadn’t realised that it was Charlie Hebdo and Macron who were at fault for refusing to appease the murdering Islamist savages. What a cowardly post.



Have you any idea how offensive it is to make objectionable remarks towards Mohammed ? Any idea at all ? Just go out in the street and say what you;ve just posted to a Muslim.

The only coward are the ones who refuse to acknowledge their failings and watch the next attack and murder of another human life , mother, grandmother, child. ??


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Remeber the little boy who drowned trying to get to Europe with his daddy ? This is how hateful Charlie Hebdo is, but according to Macron, it must be freedom of speech !

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Granny, I think that the people who have been murdered and beheaded might also be slightly offended. I never thought you would be an apologist for terrorism.

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Originally Posted by Fidelio
Granny, I think that the people who have been murdered and beheaded might also be slightly offended. I never thought you would be an apologist for terrorism.


How dare you ! How dare you, you clearly do not understand what that expression means. Maybe you should retract that post but I think if I referred to your father as a peadophile it might just hit hard.


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I say,steady on old girl,that allegation was never proved.

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Well as I've said before how many faces does Islam have? the religion of peace? or the religion of if anyone looks the wrong way at us or fails to believe, are to be executed, it would be better for world peace if all religion was outlawed, but then they would all turn into fanatics wanting people to be forced to worship their chosen god, religion has done nothing but to destabilise the world throughout History.

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Originally Posted by casper
Well as I've said before how many faces does Islam have? the religion of peace? or the religion of if anyone looks the wrong way at us or fails to believe, are to be executed, it would be better for world peace if all religion was outlawed, but then they would all turn into fanatics wanting people to be forced to worship their chosen god, religion has done nothing but to destabilise the world throughout history.

Hear! hear!

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Originally Posted by casper
Well as I've said before how many faces does Islam have? the religion of peace? or the religion of if anyone looks the wrong way at us or fails to believe, are to be executed, it would be better for world peace if all religion was outlawed, but then they would all turn into fanatics wanting people to be forced to worship their chosen god, religion has done nothing but to destabilise the world throughout history.


That's just a pipe dream ! Something else would follow of equal intensity , probably racism .

These terroists as we know, are fanatics , whether they follow religion or not. They are evil bastaards, and as having been pointed out for long enough, they are in enclaves all over Europe , ready to act at the slightest opportunity. In this revenge attack, fired by Erdogan ,and Iran but instigated by cartoons of defamation towards Erdogan and his Prophet , , to pour oil on a fire and call it 'freedom of expression ' is simply naiev .
France are the most racist country in the whole of Europe. That's why a number of years ago, the Jews felt intimidated and were leaving for Israel.
Yes, I know this latest attack is in Austria, but the Jewish community have closed all their businesses and synogogues, so clearly there is concern. We do not want and Israeli/ Muslim war in Europe and at the moment Erdogan is behaving like the modern day depiction of Hitler.

I worry for us all and despite what Fidelio's accusations are against me, I feel complete tragedy and pain for those who lost family members last night or the impact of such an attack, the same as I have felt the grief for so many innocents throughout the Middle East, here and elsewhere .


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Well at the end of the day, it all points to religious extremism nothing more nothing less, those Muslims that say they don't support it but sit on the sidelines and say nothing are as guilty as those that strap the bombs on, as in everything there are decent people in every religion, there are many religions I am critical of including some of our own, that I believe do more harm than good, if there is a place we go at the end of life how will we be judged and on what? I am a believer but have confessed to murder so am absolved, or I am a non believer but have been a decent human being, or is it only those that believe that will enter Heaven or Elysium or Paradise, and the promises and delights of an endless supply of virgins.

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Its just an excuse for thuggery, much as most of the IRA was, a few people manipulating a lot of others that just wanted an excuse to behave like para-militaries, never got out of playing cowboys and indians from when they were three years old.

The Koran and the bible doesn't even come into the equation, although totally incorrect quotes from them do!

The media as usual don't help, if 99% of Muslims are against violence they aren't given a proportional representation by the media, similar to the same with Jewish people, the media choose who to publicise and who to not.


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