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Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ #1077503
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Does anyone have any info on Wood Lane also known as Granville Terrace, then name changed back to Wood Lane ? Wallasey Village not Greasby . Thanks.

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They both existed at the same time, the 1911 directory,

Wood Lane, Wallasey Village.

Granville Terrace, Green Lane, Wallasey

If you have access to the 1911 census and the 1911 Summary Books, both have been enumerated.

I suspect Granville Terrace was built in a part of Wood Lane. There are fewer properties in Wood Lane in 1911 than there was in 1881. Granville arrived later than 1881, so perhaps Granville Terrace was built on what once was known as Wood Lane properties.


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There is a Granville Court near the end of Wood Ln but this looks like a newish development.

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Originally Posted by mikeeb
There is a Granville Court near the end of Wood Ln but this looks like a newish development.


Granville Court is a mid 60's ? sheltered development. I use to live in Granville Close, a 70's cul-de-sac behind Granville
Court. I assume both took their names from Granville Terrace. All in Wallasey Village behind the Farmers Arms.

Re: Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ [Re: JadyW] #1077665
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Wood lane was a cobbled entry passageway between Granville Terrace and Marshlands Road. Before the second world war, it led to a small estate of bungalows. When a land mine fell in the area, the bungalows disappeared, along with Cosy Cosmo cinema, and about five houses in Granville Terrace. The cinema stood alongside the Farmer’s Arms Pub. An off-shoot entry leading to Marshlands remains and still has its original cobbles.

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This map is 1899, Marshlands is to the left of Granville Terrace.

Mike, was the cobbled passage at the bottom of Granville?

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Hi Bertie
No, to your question. The old timers of Granville and Marshlands told me - Wood Lane ran from Green Lane, and was an access road to the to the bungalows directly behind Granville, which in those days ended abruptly at a large wall.
I seem to remember someone tell me there was a footpath from the bungalows to Wallasey village that came out alongside the Farmer’s Arms. The footpath became the access road to the Phoenix cinema car park.
What the buildings to the right of field 529.426 are I couldn’t tell you, but there were a lot of market gardens around Wallasey Village in those days.

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Thanks, Mike,

Could do with a 1881 ish map before Granville Terrace was there.


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1874/5 (surveyed) 1882 (published) shows the two properties that were at the southern end of Granville Terrace


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Re: Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ [Re: JadyW] #1077710
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I've also noticed that the current Wood Lane roadway isn't where the Granville Terrace roadway was, its further to the west.

Granville Terrace roadway ran through the front gardens of the existing houses on the east side of Wood Lane.

The lane that was to the west of Granville Terrace ran through the existing parking area on the west side of Wood Lane, Wood Lane only has houses on the east side, the houses on the west side are the rear of the odd numbered Marshland Road houses.

The current Marshlands Road that leads to Granville Court Residential Home is a brand new route even further west than the lane to the west of Granville terrace.

I'll do a graphic if you are as a confused by those words as I am.


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Re: Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ [Re: diggingdeeper] #1077715
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No, not confused, it shows like that on the side by side map, it all depends how accurate the duel mapping is?


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Originally Posted by bert1
No, not confused, it shows like that on the side by side map, it all depends how accurate the duel mapping is?


I checked by other reference points, it is accurate within a whisker, what is very helpful is the lane across the road on Green Lane which hasn't moved. The houses on the east of Granville Terrance are plumb on top of the existing houses on Wood Lane but Granville didn't have front gardens, they were direct on the street.

I'm glad you weren't confused, it took me about forty edit to get that right.


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Re: Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ [Re: JadyW] #1077730
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Does this sound reasonable,

The 1911 directory has Wood Lane, Wallasey village, access to Wood Lane was from Wallasey Village Road, side of Public house.

Granville Terrace, Green Lane, only access from Green Lane.

Granville Terrace described in the directory as "No Thoroughfare", could explain Mike's brick wall, not sure when Granville was removed, it was still there for the 1939 register, so some time after that.

Today's Wood Lane developed to allow access to the existing properties in Wood Lane.

Depending when the Cinema was built, did this block off vehicle access to Wood Lane, if there ever was any?


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1911 directory and 1938 directory, Wood Lane entrance replaced with Picture House.

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Re: Info on Granville Terrace / Wood Lane please/ [Re: JadyW] #1077738
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A bit of guesswork here, but I think we may have been putting the cart before the horse on this one.
After years of planning, they laid the railway through the existing market gardens in 1888. This would have meant market gardeners lost access to land on one side of the railway. To regain access to these gardens and greenhouses meant they had to open a private green lane (unmetalled rural route) through their own property from Green Lane itself. So, Wood Lane would have been there before they built Granville. Who knows, there could have been a small orchard or wood along the lane, hence the name. Nobody would have enough interest in purchasing road name plates. The Village was just a small community, and those who worked the gardens would have been aware of the lane.
The council of the time wouldn’t have adopted it, because it only gave access to gardens. And, when they built Granville and Marshlands, the council adopted that part of the lane, and cobbled it. I suppose it would have been too confusing to nameplate it, as it was now just entry access for the houses that ended at a private unadopted lane.
They could have built the buildings at the bottom of Granville to house the all year-round garden workers. Tied cottages were cheaper than paying the full rate for the job. In the harvesting season, lots of Irish came over as seasonal help. The other buildings look to me like Greenhouses, and storage sheds.
If you look at the picture on: -

https://ar-ar.facebook.com/HiddenWi...cosmo-opened-on-the-12t/815755341928702/

You can see the pavement doesn’t continue from the end of the Cosmo, but starts again at the old Farmers Arms. The perspective seems to show a passageway, but seems smaller than the one nearest the camera (Wirral Villas).
The 'Cosy Cosmo' opened on the 12th May 1913
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