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#1043025 - 16th Aug 2017 7:58pm The State ***
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What do people think about this 4 part drama to be shown on Sunday channel 4 about British men and women going to Syria to become Jihads!!! Personally I don't think it should have been allowed as giving IS publicity and attention which I think they crave...I don't really want to know how it works!!

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#1043028 - 16th Aug 2017 8:13pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Its best to know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Unfortunately the program is probably going to be a mixture of truth and propaganda and may be seen as such.
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#1043039 - 16th Aug 2017 9:18pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Perhaps the more that go and don't come back the better

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#1043052 - 16th Aug 2017 11:37pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Whose propaganda is that digging? Theirs or ours?

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#1043085 - 17th Aug 2017 1:32pm Re: The State [Re: Excoriator]
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Whose propaganda is that digging? Theirs or ours?


Everybody's, the media aren't particularly fussy in this country.
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#1043125 - 17th Aug 2017 10:27pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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In view of today's horrific events in Barcelona I don't think this will be aired. I certainly won't be watching , I don't want to know or care how these b,s get their evil recruits. Still say it shouldn't be allowed to be on , think it's wrong!!!

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#1043128 - 18th Aug 2017 12:52am Re: The State [Re: cools]
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In view of today's horrific events in Barcelona I don't think this will be aired. I certainly won't be watching , I don't want to know or care how these b,s get their evil recruits. Still say it shouldn't be allowed to be on , think it's wrong!!!
Will you be writing to Channel 4 or OFCOM, I wonder? think
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#1043131 - 18th Aug 2017 7:15am Re: The State [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Edited by Mark (18th Aug 2017 1:28pm)
Edit Reason: Content Removed Not in the wiki spirit

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#1043142 - 18th Aug 2017 10:39am Re: The State [Re: diggingdeeper]
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The sad thing is they will get some propaganda value from a programme like this, portraying those going as misled brainwashed innocents that didn't properly understand what they were getting into.

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#1043147 - 18th Aug 2017 1:07pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Exactly Casper, why give them any publicity at all whether good or bad. They act like they are still in dark ages so don't give them any light at all, hate them!!! Oh Rude, pointless complaining to channel 4 ,they are known for their controversial programmes and it is only my opinion sure many more will want this garbage aired!! Thanks Dilly for your support but you know me always up for a debate,ha...

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#1043148 - 18th Aug 2017 1:32pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Well said, Cools. The media are biased, they create controversial programmes out of biased views. They wittingly intend to cause reaction and who produces and directs these programmes ? I bet in most cases, they don't have a name like Brown, Smith , Jones, McTavish or Murphy.
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#1043149 - 18th Aug 2017 1:41pm Re: The State [Re: granny]
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Ha ! Just had a look at who the director is. Peter Kosminsky, same chap who directed Wolf Hall. Well apparently he has done meticulous research on this The State.
Didn't like Wolf Hall anyway, one of the worst character representations based on his interpretations of individuals. Speaks for itself.
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#1043150 - 18th Aug 2017 1:45pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Once again I have been edited. Not in the wiki spirit ? . Did anyone else who read my post before it was edited find it Not in the wiki spirit. I advised another user not to reply to what I seen as a deliberate taunt. This however was not removed.

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#1043151 - 18th Aug 2017 1:50pm Re: The State [Re: Dilly]
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Once again I have been edited. Not in the wiki spirit ? . Did anyone else who read my post before it was edited find it Not in the wiki spirit. I advised another user not to reply to what I seen as a deliberate taunt. This however was not removed.


I saw it, and in my opinion, the antagonist knew what they were doing on a personal level towards another member and you told the challenged person not to respond. Nothing wrong with that.
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#1043152 - 18th Aug 2017 1:56pm Re: The State [Re: cools]
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Thanks Granny but it always seems to me that the scales will always balance in her favour. I now have to think long and hard if I want to remain on a site that has shown a favouring towards this person for as long as I can remember.

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