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Wow ! Well done Bert.


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Absolutely fantastic work bert1 can't thank you enough everyone has been so kind helping me with this I can't believe the amount of time you have spent on this it is truly appreciated. Imagine finding the graves that is amazing, I don't seem to be able to view any of the images not sure how to get them. confused

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He's been great for you Bute along with Granny..I have found it very interesting too even though it is such a sad tale, found out lots I didn't know. You have to pay a subscription to Wiki site to enable you to see images Bute.

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Another tragedy took place in Rock Ferry, 1925 and I've just added a newspaper report to Futurepasts post,
https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/1038713.html#Post1038713

At the bottom of that report,

"The grave in which the 3 coffins were entombed adjoins that of Nellie Clark, the victim of the Rock Ferry murder last January and upon it placed several wreaths"

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I know Bert1 & granny have been wonderful & I will have to have a think about getting the subscription thanks. grin

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Hi -
I've been following this sad story with interest - some good work and glad you were able to get help.
There's a marriage on 'Free BMD' and 'Cheshire BMD' in the June quarter of 1939 for a John Wallace Clark to Edith Elizabeth Hubbard at St Luke's church Tranmere Birkenhead - a possibility for Nellie's brother?

'Free BMD' has several births from 1939 onwards - using the surname Clark and mother's maiden name Hubbard. I won't post the names as the people may still be living.

If you have a subscription to 'Findmypast' - you should be able to search for John Clark(born 2nd December 1911}? in Birkenhead County Cheshire. Not sure if this is the correct John Clark but one of the children's names matches the name of one of the children on 'Free BMD'?

I had a wander around Bebington Cemetery and was (hopefully) able to find the grave of Nellie and her family. I took a couple of photographs but sadly it is unmarked.

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Thank you so much jupiter I will look all that up, very useful information indeed I just can't believe the response I have had from everyone who has helped me built an amazing picture of the family & their details got so much to follow up, visit & collate now I have been staying up all night there is so much uncovered, I even bought a book online called Mersey murders of the 1920's it has a really informative story covering of the murder on Nellie Bell Wood Clark with some more interesting details about the family.This has been one of the best weeks in all my researching family years but also the saddest could not have found so much local detail myself so thanks to all for the kindness shown to me here. I would love to see the photos even if it is unmarked if there was a way of obtaining them from you I could send you my email but don't know how to on this forumgrin for

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Bute,

I sent a PM to you 2 days ago, you should see a flashing envelope top of page above "My Stuff" click it will open.


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Originally Posted by jupiter


If you have a subscription to 'Findmypast' - you should be able to search for John Clark(born 2nd December 1911}? in Birkenhead County Cheshire. Not sure if this is the correct John Clark but one of the children's names matches the name of one of the children on 'Free BMD'?



John Wallace Clark was born,2 December 1911.
The child mentioned, 39 register (can't open) was born 1939 and died 1941 at 27 months old.

Buried, Bebington Cemetery,

Phyllis Patricia Ann Clark, 27 Months, June 14, 1941, 389 New Chester Rd, Rock Ferry, Private Grave, IS 610


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Death of John Wallace Clark,



John Wallace Clark
Death Age:
51
Birth Date:
abt 1912
Death Date:
abt 1963
Burial Date:
19 Mar 1963
Burial Place:
Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery:
Southern Cemetery
Cemetery Section:
BB
Grave Number:
1508
Cemetery Notes:
Consecrated


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Edith Elizabeth Clark,



Name:
Edith Elizabeth Clark
Birth Date:
10 Mar 1919
Date of Registration:
Aug 1998
Age at Death:
79
Registration district:
Manchester
Inferred County:
Lancashire
Register Number:
F62B
District and Subdistrict:
0061F
Entry Number:
47


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Hi again Bute -

You're welcome. Great that you have been able to find out so much for the family and yourself - it's time well spent and very rewarding.
I'm happy to send on the photos of the grave but no worries if Bert has already done so. (your e-mail address is already on here in one of your posts)

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Originally Posted by jupiter
Hi again Bute -

You're welcome. Great that you have been able to find out so much for the family and yourself - it's time well spent and very rewarding.
I'm happy to send on the photos of the grave but no worries if Bert has already done so. (your e-mail address is already on here in one of your posts)

jupiter


Hi Jupiter,

I haven't sent anything yet, I haven't got photo's of the grave site, Bute will be pleased to receive them from you.


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That's fine Bert I'll send the photos tomorrow.

Bute - Sorry about the late reply - I haven't been able to do it today but will send you an e-mail tomorrow and attach some photos if that's ok.

Unfortunately the area is overgrown and the grass was a bit high but the photos are clear.

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Once again can't thank you enough bert1 I can't believe all you have done & it's been great being able to piece together all you have given me with what I had as that was mostly Scottish stuff before I discovered the branch that moved to Birkenhead I thought it was going to be so very difficult but you have spent so much of your time on this & made it so much easier pointing me in the right direction it's truly appreciated.
Thanks jupiter just whenever you can send photos is fine it is most kind of you.

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